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Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 17, 2024 10:27 AM

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Patch buddies are the best, haha-
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Literally just everything about Garvin.
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Very fair, and yeah. Akira and Garvin are probably really good at reading each other, which is the only reason why any strain would end up becoming obvious, haha-
Garvin would be so confused if Akira shifted their behaviors too. Like, what? No. He's trying to make up for however bad the home must've been to make Akira prefer the damn streets. Seriously, how bad was it? Garvin barely survived the streets! How the fuck did Akira survive growing up somewhere worse?
He would, of course, agree to feeding each other's addictions though. Obviously.
Yeah, I figured as much. These two street rats are rarely ever arguing or on different sides of an argument.
The biggest issue shows up when Revan uses Akira's preference in the argument. Because he might would. Because during a bad argument between Garvin and Revan, there is no such thing as pulling their punches... Unfortunately.
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 17, 2024 03:15 PM

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Indeed they are
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Lmaooo
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Yeahhh-
Akira just being confused about what Garvin's trying to do but reciprocating all of his actions because, obviously the shift is particularly evident when they're around him, so they've gotta make sure Garvin's not doing whatever he's doing for Akira's sake... Or, at least, Akira's going to make it harder for him because they absolutely hate feeling like a relationship is uneven
Obviously. And it's probably gonna start stressing everyone else in the polycule out too, lmao
Yeahhh
Also, Revan bringing it up would probably be like a slap in the face for Akira as they finally realize what's been happening, and when I tell you they'll be pissed at Revan-
Like, they get heated in arguments anyway because they're very passionate about protecting those they care about (and, in their eyes, Revan is very much a bigger threat to Garvin than Garvin is to Revan, hence them siding with Garvin constantly... they totally aren't biased because they're so similar to Garvin and understand the impact of Revan's words more-), so their own experiences being used against others? Uh-uh. That's a major no. There's about to be some big problems, lol
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 17, 2024 03:42 PM

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It's beautiful.
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Literally all of Garvin's coping mechanisms actually just make things worse. Dude has no good ones.
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Thus begins the cycle of Garvin and Akira continuously shifting their behaviors to one-up (in Garvin's case) or match (in Akira's case) the other.
Oh for sure. Especially since they would've seen just how bad Garvin's addiction can get due to July. And how much worse of a mindset he tends to be in too.
Well, it also wouldn't just be Akira's preference being used. Garvin pretty much never tells people that he got kicked out of the orphanage. He much prefers to say he left. That it was his choice, his decision. Which makes it a bit more complicated, I'm sure. Because it's what the polycule would think, if he'd mentioned the orphanage at all, it was probably to say he left. So as far as Revan knows, he's using both of their preferences. Two for two, both of them preferred the streets to somewhere else. So it's even easier to not pull that punch.
Only issue is, is that in an argument like that, in those circumstances- Garvin wouldn't be thinking about what he'd told them. Just proving whatever point he'd been trying to make. Which easily spirals into him giving way too detailed descriptions of trauma that easily end up retraumatizing him. This dude will stare Revan down and argue his way into a whole ass panic attack and keep going.
Revan realizes when he oversteps rather quickly, which is just about the only good thing. But in an argument where Garvin starts doing that? It doesn't really matter. Because at point, Garvin's already going between invalidation/downplaying and trying to make a point and defending how bad it was and it's hard to get him to stop whenever he starts spiraling like that.
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 18, 2024 07:59 AM

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I have a lot of lore for the orphanage.
Should I make nekas?
Should I give lore?
You'll get some quotes whenever I post the quotes and all
But should I give you the information?
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 18, 2024 09:20 AM

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The neverending cycle, lmao
Yeahhh, the one thing Akira's rather... uh... oblivious to, you could say- is the consequences of addiction. And that's mostly because they struggle with it too and just, you know, don't understand how bad it is-
Like, it's just helpful, right? It's not really a problem!
Ohhh boyyyyy
Yeah, that'd be fun-
Akira just shooing Revan away and trying (and definitely failing) at trying to bring Garvin back down
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I will take literally anything you decide to give me :)
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 18, 2024 09:43 AM

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Also, for future stuff-
Could I have an approximate list of the dead who are bonded to each of your characters? And maybe the type of spirit they are as well, if you have an idea of what they may be
And, also, if you think any of those characters would want to communicate with your characters, let me know because our darling Sol will very much help with that... At least for characters who are closer to them. He can see everyone who's sticking to the people around them, and he is a bit of a sucker for helping out the dead, so-
Though they'll be more hesitant to communicate with vengeful spirits
Just a little heads-up :D

Edited at April 18, 2024 09:45 AM by Lost Memories
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 18, 2024 10:54 AM

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I have been working on the orphanage information since I sent that message. I am still not done. There is so much to go over. Anyways-
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Truly a neverending cycle indeed.
Haven't decided just how terrible July will be yet. Probably really bad because of the Andi Arc. So very likely we end up with Garvin in a medical setting for a second time. So... Can't wait for that slap in the face showing just how bad addiction can be.
Yeahhh, I wish everyone nearby luck at getting Garvin to calm down. Akira trying to shoo away Revan would be helpful and terrible all at once. Great in the long run, but short-term, Garvin's going to be very much against Revan 'getting to walk away'. My guy does not understand that they're trying to help him not spiral.
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Hmmm
Well
Michelle, Andi's first victim, is probably bonded to Garvin.
Revan's dad might be bonded to, you know, Revan.
Chile is probably bonded to Clio but she has mediumship anyways sooo...
Alvis is probably bonded to Irfam.
Uhhh
Not sure about anyone else... I'd have to think about it, haha-
Yeah.
Oooo, Jakob might would be bonded to Aries as a vengeful spirit, now that I think about it.
I'll think about all this some more lol
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 19, 2024 10:34 PM

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Sounds fun, lmao
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Yeah, honestly, Akira will probably just be thinking "well, there's obviously something wrong, this whole situation is wrong, but, like, I don't get why everyone's so panicky about the alcohol and drugs and shit, that's a perfectly normal way to cope with your emotions!!"
They... They need help too XD
Well, good for him, Akira will literally hold him back if necessary, lol
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Fun, fun! Thanks! :)
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 19, 2024 10:41 PM

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I have three more descriptions and then a whole other part to do. I have way too much lore for the orphanage. It matters more in BB but it's formatted for AFCS and probably still matters for AFCS too anyways lol
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Haha- Devery, Mergen, and Garvin definitely all agree with that sentiment. Certain bits may still end up seeming terrible though. Guess we'll just have to see though.
I would not recommend that because, uh, trauma. But probably fair. Not like he'd be giving them many options. Especially with the type of spiral he'd be going down, haha
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Of course, of course!
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 21, 2024 09:08 PM

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Amazing, I can't wait to see all the lore!
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I would say they should go to rehab therapy together, but, honestly, I think this might be the most unwilling group of people to ever go anywhere near a rehab hospital... Or a hospital in general, at least for the most part, and them going together may not be a great idea either, lmao
Fair-
I mean, as long as Garvin doesn't try to chase after Revan or anything, there wouldn't be a problem, if he did though, in the least triggering way they could manage, Akira would definitely just try to keep him from leaving the room, lol

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