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Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 16, 2024 03:32 PM

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I am working on something fun now.
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Ooo, thanks for all that information! Now to drop some of mine own lmao
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Garvin struggles just an insane amount with both too.
For starters, he'll probably never outright say no to anything that's unwanted. He's learned that it doesn't matter if he can't back it up with force. So he's much more likely to just immediately start fighting and trying to get away than to just say no. Though, in his experience, someone asking at all is a miracle and he is not one to say no to someone he thinks he can steal from. Which brings us to- Garvin is beyond willing to retraumatize himself by saying yes to something he doesn't want as long as he thinks he'll be able to benefit from it somehow (usually, that means him stealing the other person's money). There's also the small bit of, uhm... He's very much under the impression that the body's reaction is just as good for judging consent as anything else.
And, I mean, we haven't even gotten to the absolute insane amounts of grooming he's dealt with throughout his life. His view of consent is very much twisted. Also very much a 'You can do whatever you want to me.' with a silent 'As long as it means 1) I'm stealing from you or 2) You won't leave and/or get rid of me.'
Which it all tends to be worse in actual relationships. A major part of the grooming (especially from Fintan) was that it's love. And the more someone does, the more they love him. Oh, and you know, he definitely doesn't want them to leave or get rid of him. It also means that whole bit about the body's reaction gets thrown out too because the more someone does, the more it's going to just be painful, but he obviously wants to be loved so that's good enough for consent to him.
Not to even mention all of the dissociation- Really, that becomes just about the only way to tell if he's doing alright or not in those types of situations. Because he's likely to seem fine, to be reacting the way someone would want their partner to be reacting (again, that grooming is a total issue). The only thing that can give him away is that he practically immediately starts dissociating if something happens that he doesn't want or that triggers trauma or anything like that.
Funnily enough, he's also very good about other people and their consent. Some parts of his mindset end up trying to push through, of course. But for the most part, he really will beat someone up if they don't take someone's answer seriously.
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As for boundaries? Ohhh boy. Garvin is very bad with setting boundaries. He's so terrible at setting boundaries. And even when he does set boundaries, it's very easy for him to let his boundaries be crossed. His life didn't really let boundaries be set in stone and all. Following someone else's boundaries is a bit easier, as long as it doesn't clash with what he thinks needs to happen for survival. Which is why his poverty mindset is so insane, he has no boundaries for himself and he is willing to push the boundaries of others to an extreme extent.
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And now Revan!
He's pretty good about consent and boundaries, actually. He's very strict when it comes to consent. He will not tolerate someone ignoring someone's answer. And while he's not physically intimidating, he can ruin people's lives in other ways. And he is not afraid to make that obvious.
Boundaries are a bit more complicated. He tries his best not to overstep other people's boundaries, but he can get lost in the heat of moments sometimes. It helps to cause some of the worse arguments between him and Garvin.
As for his own boundaries, he has a tendency to either set too many or too little. And by too many, I mean he sets boundaries that he doesn't really have in order to keep distance from people.
That's about all there is to say there though.
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Man. Feel bad for Nico and Garvin with their terrible understanding of consent and boundaries. Oops haha
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 16, 2024 04:30 PM

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Ooo, I love fun things! :D
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I love the information as well
Big oops, lmao
Poor Nico and Garvin literally just never saying no to anything just to keep others around-
God, it's so sad, and definitely won't cause problems.
I'm just waiting for the eventual breakdown from both of them after years of being together before finally actually talking about anything that they've gone through. Like, that'll be a complete mess for everyone. Probably some panic as the others realize that things they've done in the past were probably actually triggers but Garvin and Nico never said anything because they thought it was normal and just something they had to deal with to be in a relationship.
Like, the whole conversation about sexual trauma alone, jesus christ-
These two genuinely have an insane amount, and that's with me not knowing the full extent of Garvin's and you not knowing the full extent of Nico's-
Crazy.
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Maybe Revan and Akira can teach a class about consent and then Akira can make Rev sit down and listen to their talk about boundaries XD
I mean, is Akira particularly healthy? Nope. They have terrible coping mechanisms and they have actually worked through basically any of their trauma, but in terms of preventing further trauma?
Yeah, they can probably manage that... So long as the others don't go and fucking die on them, lol
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 16, 2024 04:53 PM

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Yeahhh- Only Garvin probably wouldn't ever talk about everything he went through, even after being with them all for years. Garvin doesn't even remember everything he went through. And, besides that, he also just doesn't really think about it. He's more likely to get triggered and not even realize it himself too. Like, Garvin doesn't even realize he was groomed. And any insinuating, implying, or outright saying will have bad results. Especially if they (correctly, and with good reason) accuse Fintan of it. Because, as I've mentioned, he still sees Fintan as his friend. Really, bringing up that Garvin has any sexual trauma would have terrible results because he will take offense to that. At least a little. He can admit to some, in the way of 'Well, yeah, duh, I grew up on the streets, obviously I'd have some' but take it any further and you run the risk of Garvin retraumatizing himself as a sort of 'Fuck you, that's not true, I'll prove it' sort of thing.
I mean, the polycule will have some idea that he's got sexual trauma just because of the Andi Arc. And the group that leaves the city with him during the Run Clio Run Arc will at least see some of the aftermath to his retraumatizing habits, though he would be trying to keep a lid on all of that as well as he could. So... Yeah.
There's actually a lot of sexual trauma that Garvin doesn't even remember too. Like when he had a two month (give or take) run-in with, uh... Traffickers.
And the orphanage hadn't been the best of places either... Definitely not.
He doesn't really remember a ton of his trauma in general though, thanks dissociation, so him talking about his trauma is a lot of. 'Or, well... Actually... Okay, so, maybe... No, wait...' as he struggles to form a coherent timeline.
Which, we also know he'll talk about trauma if he's trying to prove a point, so it's definitely possible that trauma slips during arguments and whatnot. Because it would.
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Revan and Akira bonding over teaching their partners about consent with Revan quietly booking everyone therapy sessions in the back (including Akira, you do not get to get out of this!)
Revan probably would agree to being taught boundaries.
Garvin, on the other hand, would be so upset about both classes. He does not realize how twisted his views on either one are.
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 16, 2024 06:46 PM

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Oof, yeahhh
See, Nico would probably end up agreeing to talk about it... Or, rather, some of it. They also don't remember everything and, because there's so much, a lot of different instances also mash together. Really, the only remotely clear timeline she's got is after meeting River and Adiar, which is mainly because they've been consistently there after Aurora and Rowan's deaths. Everything before that is muddled, and all her time with River and Adiar is mixed up within itself too.
There's also the fact that, even with what she does remember, Nico would still be censoring themself to protect his partners from any trauma relating to what she went through.
Though Garvin and Akira will 100% see some of the trauma slipping through during and shortly after the Body Arc (which is coming up very quickly, might I add), thought that'll mostly be through his reactions and such.
Alsooo, random side note, um, so, Karma's dealt with traffickers too though... uh... less directly than Garvin (...Kinda?)
Ummm
It's a lot to explain. Some of it will be hinted at in Karma's name story. It wasn't fun. At all.
And it's actually a severely guilty trauma topic for Karma so if Garvin, especially Garvin, ever accidentally said something or hinted at something and Karma caught on?
Well, uh
That patch that Garvin gave them?
It's immediately being given back along with a string of apologies and Karma avoiding Garvin for a very long time
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I love that, lmao
Akira would agree to go to therapy... only to avoid and deflect anytime anyone attempted to get them to speak about any of their trauma, lol
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Garvin wouldn't agree to talk about it seriously just because he doesn't think there's enough to warrant talking about. Literally dissociation was basically his only coping mechanism until he was introduced to, uh, you know, his bad habits. So dissociation was near constant. So his memory is so incredibly incomplete. He just doesn't notice because, well, how would he? His main way of dealing with things is to ignore it. Hard to realize how little he actually remembers when he's avoiding it altogether anyways.
Garvin's also prone to censoring some stuff he's been through, at least until he's truly trying to make a point and then it's way too many details because if he isn't retraumatizing himself, is he really making his point??
Oooo, fun, fun. The Baggage/Body Arc will definitely be fun. Garvin is not going to let Adiar get away scotfree.
Oh fun- Should I mention that the orphanage kinda counts as traffickers too? Or let that one slide for now and focus on actual full-on sex traffickers he dealt with for two months (give or take) when he was six, almost seven before he was bought by that first major guy I've mentioned before?
Well! That shouldn't be a problem! Garvin remembers nothing from those two months. Still has triggers and stuff from them but uh... Doesn't remember any of it. So no worries! He won't be mentioning it in any capacity. Probably.
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Garvin would hate the idea of going to therapy too. Dude does not realize the amount of trauma he has and he hates spending money (especially on himself and by proxy also people spending money on him) and he thinks he's handling everything just fine on his own, thank you very much.
He would also refuse to wear glasses or use a cane or take pain medication or literally anything that makes his life easier.
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Here's the surprise!
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Song; DEBT COLLECTOR by Jhariah.

Arcs; Starting Up, Introducing the Arena, and Rowland.

*~*~*~*

(The bit before the lyrics start is probably just, like, titles and credits and scenery. Scenery first mostly and then with the beat, the titles and then mini credits, and more scenery duh.)

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It’s all catching up to you now

Hope you can run

(Focus in on Aries for the above two lines, probably walking in the arena in one and then in rebellions’ halls in the other)

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‘Cause soon your past will come to drag you

Down, down

(Focus in on Irfam for the above two lines, the last two words should have The Collapse references somehow/somewhere in the back)

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You scammed your way into heaven

(Focus in on Simon for the above line, probably near some shadows, smiling, also walking in the rebellions’ halls)

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‘Til the angels realize you’re not one of them

(Focus in on Revan for the above line, a family portrait or two should totally be shown for like, a split second, one with the entire family and one with just him and his mom, you know, to symbolize the deaths and all haha)

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Here comes the debt collector

Seems you owe him again

Dollars and coins can’t cut your check

This time around

Here comes the debt collector

And you owe him again

Kind words and lies won’t save your head

This time around, round, round

(So for the first chorus, obviously we got the meeting that’s going to bring in the arena. So Damasos, Hesiodos, Nikomedes, and Euthymenes are all seen during this bit. We should probably only have the beginning, to show who all is at the table -Promachus, Revan, Raphael, Irfam, Aries, Simon, Damasos, Hesiodos, Nikomedes, and Euthymenes- and then we should also probably have the end where they begin to stand and leave. Revan probably passes by the next group as he’s walking through the halls. The next group being Nico, Akira, Briar, and Garvin)

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Gravedigger

Cordial killer

(These two lines should probably go to Akira while the group is on their way to the skating rink, with some sort of reference to Amie, Kumi, Everett, and Leo)

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Your payment is due

They’re looking at you

(Then we focus in on Nico with the above two lines, you know, a little hint towards the Baggage Arc, but they’re probably ice skating in the moment too, you know, for the references, haha)

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We’ve done what we can

It’s out of our hands

(These two lines should probably go to Briar, also while they’re at the skating rink, with some little hints to the gang and the Briar Arc, of course)

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Sooner or later, it comes back again

(And then we finally get to Garvin for this group as they leave the skating rink, he’s totally doing fucking finger guns at the others, the sun right behind him, and then the sun could switch to Andi’s eye for a split second before going back. You know, for them hints)

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Here comes the debt collector

Seems you owe him again

Dollars and coins can’t cut your check

This time around

Here comes the debt collector

And you owe him again

Kind words and lies won’t save your head

This time around

(So for the second chorus, obviously it’s following the above group a little while longer. Really just some more going through small scenes, like Briar trying to get close to Aries, Akira and Garvin being the best besties, and Nico trying to get close to Revan. One of them should pass by Ingall at the end though)

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Please don’t think I have no empathy

For you

What you’ve been through but

(These three lines are going to both Ingall and Sol, showing off their budding friendship, maybe some hints to past angst too :D)

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There’s nothing I can do now but stand here and watch

It all catch up to you

(These two lines go to Kostas, Karma, and Mergen. We start with Kostas and the distance coming between him and Karma. Then we get Karma and Mergen’s budding friendship too. Obviously some more hints at angst, haha)

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Here comes the debt collector

Seems you owe him again

Dollars and coins can’t cut your check

This time around, round

Here comes the debt collector

And you owe him again

Kind words and lies won’t save your head

This time around

(Obviously this last chorus just gives some more groups and all. Like Mergen and Garvin chilling with Devery, like Kostas and Irfam chilling, like Sol and Simon chilling, and just, you know, all that fun stuff)

*~*~*~*

Song; Goodbye by Jhariah.

Arcs; Baggage and Briar.

*~*~*~*

I never thought I

Would muster the courage to leave here

I broke free of what kept me trapped here

And I don’t think I’m coming back here

So goodbye, farewell

(hhh)

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I don’t need you now

(Nico in Baggage Arc, I think. This themesong needs more input from you given that these are arcs for your characters, haha)

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I don’t need you now

(Briar in the, uh, you know, Briar Arc)

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(Okay, so in the small instrumental here, obviously we visit the police station to go over a few things that happen in the arc and hint at the three victims of Andi that actually were reported missing and all that)

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These decaying walls were all that kept me sane

I entrusted everything I had and all my pain

In this Sheetrock jail, this self made prison

I’ve survived fine but I’m not living

(hhh)

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This cautionary coffin, that I’m not dying off in

I’m breaking out to face my enemies

This time I’ll stop them

Almost forget them hiding in the dark

But they remember me and have my name upon their scars

(Yay, the one thing I know what I’m doing! Garvin is such a big role in both of these arcs somehow, so I bestow upon him this little bit to help showcase some of his roles in both arcs and also to hint at the very quickly approaching Andi Arc)

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Me and my past must rift apart

But I’ll always keep this on my arm

So goodbye to my new home

I miss you dearly even though

You might have stolen my whole life

But I don’t think that I’d be alone

I get this feeling that

I’m not the first and not the last

To find solace in this empty room

Broken but always true

How cliche for me to carve my name

Into the insides of this old rotten place

I’ll go away until another day

I hate that I can miss a room this way

It’s sad to say

Me and my past must rift apart

But I’ll always keep this on my arm

So goodbye to my new home

I miss you dearly even though

You might have stolen my whole life

But I don’t think that I’d be alone

I get this feeling that

I’m not the first and not the last

To find solace in this empty room

Broken but always true

Finally leave this shallow lens to

Just move on and make amends

With my past self, my naive goals

Take my wishes to the end

So goodbye to my new home

I miss you dearly even though

You might have stolen my whole life

But I don’t think that I’d be alone

I get this feeling that

I’m not the first and not the last

To find solace in this empty room

Broken but always true

(hhh)

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Me and my past must rift apart

But I’ll always keep this on my arm

(And to end it, we get the very end of the Briar Arc and the very beginning of the Andi Arc. Aka, the scene for the moment where Briar and Garvin get taken. More or less. I totally think it should be the opening of an alleyway with Andi’s shadow at the opening and it just slowly pans to the stars instead of anything else)

*~*~*~*

Song; Whose Eye Is It Anyway??? by Jhariah.

Arcs; Andi.

*~*~*~*

(We start it off with just looking at Andi’s house, you know, just some scenery for this arc, mhm, yep)

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My head is overflowing, with these thoughts

That if I return the favor you might understand

But I know, I know you could never carry the burden

You’ve left with me and I can’t give it back

So why even try?

I’m reeling from all of the pain

I feel it making me insane

(These seven lines could totally be used to get used to Andi real quick, maybe some past stuff, like when Garvin escaped that first time or when Andi got his scar and all that)

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If it’s an eye for an eye then we all go blind

(Either Garvin or Briar. If Garvin, then it’s towards Briar. If Briar, then it’s towards Andi. Probably, at least)

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If it came to it would you cross that line?

(We get to have a glimpse of Akira, Nico, and Ingall, woooo)

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With the taste of the blood on your tongue like wine

(And then right back to Andi and Garvin, ohhh boy)

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And the weight of your crimes weighing on your mind

(Small glimpse to Koler, Halia, and H. Obviously)

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It’s an eye for an eye and we all go blind again

(And back to Garvin and Briar here now, haha)

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An arm and a leg, my friend, les yeux d’la tête

(Another bit with Andi, probably directed at both Garvin and Briar)

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I never give as much as I get

(Switch on to Akira and Devery not getting along)

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This path of heart attacks is paved with folks

Who only gave their enemies what they had coming

(Hm... Probably some more Andi lines, honestly. Or Akira lines as they just start trying harder and harder to find Garvin and Briar, planning revenge on whoever had taken them and/or hurt them and/or whatever had happened to them)

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I don’t know if it’s worth it

I’m reeling from all of the pain [I’m reeling from all of the pain]

I feel it making me insane [I feel it making me insane]

(Garvin’s turn with these lines, haha, oh boy)

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If it’s an eye for an eye then we all go blind

(Either Garvin or Briar. If Garvin, then it’s towards Briar. If Briar, then it’s towards Andi. Probably, at least)

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If it came to it would you cross that line?

(We get to have a glimpse of Akira, Nico, and Ingall, woooo)

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With the taste of the blood on your tongue like wine

(And then right back to Andi and Garvin, ohhh boy)

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And the weight of your crimes weighing on your mind

(Small glimpse to Koler, Halia, and H. Obviously)

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Is it a knife or a lie? Is it in your back?

(Some more Akira not getting along with Devery)

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Is it all I need?

(A good ol’ Andi line)

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Is it all I have?

(A fun ol’ Garvin line)

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Will it bring me the peace that I need so desperately?

(Another good ol’ Andi line)

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Will I see?

(Finally another line for the group looking for them, haha. Aka Nico, Akira, Ingall, Koler, Halia, H, and just, you know, all of them)

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It’s an eye for an eye and we all go blind again

(And back to Garvin and Briar here now, haha)

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When you seek vengeance you must dig two graves

(Did someone ask for Andi to be standing at the top of the stairs looking down towards Garvin and Briar? Because that’s what this is here)

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If it’s an eye for an eye then we all go blind

(Either Garvin or Briar. If Garvin, then it’s towards Briar. If Briar, then it’s towards Andi. Probably, at least)

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If it came to it would you cross that line?

(We get to have a glimpse of Akira, Nico, and Ingall, woooo)

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With the taste of the blood on your tongue like wine

(And then right back to Andi and Garvin, ohhh boy)

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And the weight of your crimes weighing on your mind

(Small glimpse to Koler, Halia, and H. Obviously)

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Is it a knife or a lie? Is it in your back?

(Some more Akira not getting along with Devery)

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Is it all I need?

(A good ol’ Andi line)

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Is it all I have?

(A fun ol’ Garvin line)

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Will it bring me the peace that I need so desperately?

Will I see?

It’s an eye for an eye and we all go blind again

(And finally, some small bits of the final scene. Like the group standing outside the house, the group opening the door to stand at the top of the stairs leading to Garvin and Briar, the standoff against Andi that’s going to be cut short, and all that fun stuff)

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(We end with some fun, uh, looking through the pictures Andi has of his past victims, and those three missing posters mentioned earlier because Andi did keep one of those for each victim of his that got them, and then the titles and mini credits. Yep. That’s about it, I think)

*~*~*~*

I’ll do some more later, maybe.


Edited at April 16, 2024 07:17 PM by Overthink101
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 16, 2024 09:40 PM

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Honestly, Garvin has my full permission to kill Adiar (with Akira's help, of course). More than deserved.
Oof-
Yeahh
Karma was... uh... born into it? They dealt with that shit from age 0 to age 9 when they finally ran away to live on the streets. And they remember all of it. Well, basically all of it anyway, I mean, from their earliest memory at about 3 and then minus a few fuzzy memories they basically forced out.
Well, there's that, let's just hope Karma never figures it out then XD
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That... yeah, that adds up
Nico's about to be so pissed that Garvin's not exercising self-care, lmaooo
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Ooo, I love all of that! Very fun!
How would you feel about getting a few quotes from my character? Some from the past, some from the future, and others fully dependent on how certain situations play out?
Essentially a mostly angsty list of lore hints, lol
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Yesss, Garvin and Akira killing Adiar for sure haha-
Well, if we're counting the orphanage then uh... Garvin was dropped off there before he was one years old. So... Similar timing? Kind of? He got kicked out of the orphanage when he was five though, so... Yeah. Then he just had to deal with the average street stuff (which, ugh, nearing when he turned six is when the malnutrition caused him to have a seizure but let's ignore that-) until six, sevenish when the traffickers grabbed him and then about two months (give or take) the first major guy bought him from them. Who then kicked him out by the time he was nine. Uhm. A lot's going on. But overall, Garvin's memories are incredibly incomplete and/or fuzzy. Again, this guy meets the criteria for Polyfragmented DID.
Well, so long as Garvin never mentions technically being bought at one point, there shouldn't be any problems, haha-
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Garvin; Literally has days where he can barely walk
Also Garvin; Uses his ability to ignore it instead of anything else.
Rest of Polycule; "Nooooooo!"
Garvin; "Huh? This is normal."
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I would love to get quotes of past, future, and dependent angst! I will probably make some too haha
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I will say. If Garvin ever finds out Akira preferred the streets to the home they grew up in, it will put a strain between the two. Completely accidentally, on both ends, I'm sure. But Garvin is securely in the 'Anything would be better than the streets' category, to the point where he would literally rather be locked up in Andi's basement than on the streets. So learning that Akira, the person he assumed understood the most, would rather be on the streets- It's going to cause a bit of trouble. At best, Garvin would just have a conversation with Akira about it. At worst, you have Garvin questioning just how bad the streets really were, how bad he really had it, and just already taking his minimal complaints into nonexistent territory, especially around Akira, and probably more, until it explodes in an argument and then it might just start all over again. And I'm pretty sure we both know which is more likely.
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Oof, that's not fun at all, poor guy-
Karma and Garvin both dealing with trafficking as well as "normal street stuff" is fun for sure-
Granted, Karma had to deal with the "normal street stuff" for way less time than Garvin did thanks to Kostas and Quill. I mean, the three were homeless for ages, but they also weren't bothered nearly as much, especially when Quill was around because of their power, so-
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Pfft, yeahhh, that sounds about right
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Alright, yay! :D
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Um, yeah, that would... that would cause problems for sure.
Especially since Akira would be trying so hard not to invalidate Garvin's feelings at all and, in turn, just start invalidating their own experiences... again
I mean, obviously Garvin had a worse experience, and there's no way Akira could possibly compare any of their own emotions to Garvin's. And, obviously, Akira has no right to be upset about anything that happened in the home because it was all their fault anyway
Cue an apology and, depending on Garvin's reaction, probably peacing out to, best case, go to Everett, Leo, and Kumi's place (which still wouldn't be great depending on the timeline with Kumi and also the fact that literally just being around the family is a trigger in this situation) or, worst case, re-contacting Howard
And everything gets a billion times worse if this is anywhere close to the same time of year that Amie died
Or if their roots are starting to show
And when I mean they'd be leaving, I mean, they're leaving. No contact, no note saying where they went, literally leaving their phone on the nightstand and dipping in the middle of the night
Which, ya know, if they're with Everett, they can be found pretty easily because Everett will immediately reach out and make sure everyone know Kira's okay
And if they go to Howard-
Well, let's just hope that's not what happens.
Um.
That would be a train wreck for so many different reasons
You'll see some when the group that's leaving eventually comes across Howard, I mean, my guy will be so not doing well, haha
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 16, 2024 11:03 PM

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Haha, Garvin sitting with his way too much experience with 'normal street stuff' is terrible. The fact he was alone probably doesn't help by any means.
At least he's got a buddy to share the patch with now!
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Garvin would be so confused. Like, he's just trying to use adrenaline in order to ignore the pain and they're all looking at him in mild horror.
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Look at our two street rats, invalidating their own experiences as soon as a different perspective is offered-
Garvin is already very prone to invalidating his experiences.
It wouldn't really be noticeable strain for a while either way.
Just... Small things. Like Garvin sharing food and money more often with Akira. Garvin taking his already uncommon complaints and just never complaining around Akira. Garvin being even more careful about not overstepping any of their boundaries.
Really, at first, it doesn't come off as strain. It might could come off as growth. It'd really only start to show itself for what it is whenever arguments come up. He'd be taking Akira's side no matter what, for one. Though he also just wouldn't be arguing as much either.
Maybe one big thing would be that he would actually take off his trench coat and just... Not wear it. But, again, it's definitely something that could be taken a growth.
A lot of what is actually strain wouldn't come off as strain.
Not until an argument happens where someone else brings up Akira's preference as a way too far proving of a point and Garvin explodes on them and ends uo retraumatizing himself. Because even if Garvin's invalidating himself, you better bet he isn't letting someone else (cough, Revan, cough) do so too. It becomes a moment where he's also trying to convince himself too though, so it definitely wouldn't be pretty.
Whispers Cost | DiscussionApril 17, 2024 10:07 AM

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Yeah, I'd say it almost definitely didn't, lmao
We love the patch buddies! :)
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When your coping mechanism turns out to be harmful and you don't even realize it, lol
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As they do, lmao
Fun things, fun things
I mean, honestly, Akira would probably get worried about some changes that the others wouldn't just because, you know, mindsets are weird like that-
Not that they'd actually say anything, they'd probably just shift a bit to match Garvin's new mannerisms
I mean, Garvin's sharing food and money more? Alright then, right back at you!
And probably also offering to share a bottle of beer or wine more often and just sit together (because feeding addictions is healthy on both ends, for sure)
And in an argument? I mean, again, it's very rare that Akira would side with Revan, they'd almost certainly be on Garvin's side, even as messy as it might be.
Not that it would end well, but, you know, they gotta try XD

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