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Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 1, 2024 12:00 AM


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Here are the playlists then! Enjoy!
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Jusepe’s Playlist! Reminder of his nicknames in the group: Payday and Pepe.

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Side Character by Cloudfodder.

EVIL by Melanie Martinez.

Happy Face by Jagwar Twin.

Wires by The Neighbourhood.

Happy Pills by Weathers.

Sweet Dreams (Sky like Dreams) by Ferdinand fka Left Boy.

Drugs by UPSAHL.

GRRRLS by AViVA.

Crash by Neovaii.

parents by YUNGBLUD.

Saints by Echos.

People I Don’t Like by UPSAHL.

Animal by Sir Chloe.

Sweet Tooth by Scott Helman.

Everybody Gets High by MISSIO.

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Kody’s Playlist! Reminder of his nicknames in the group: Fever and Koko.

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Angry Too by Lola Blanc.

EVIL by Melanie Martinez.

Be Nice To Me by The Front Bottoms.

Blow My Brains Out by Tikkle Me.

The Family Jewels by MARINA.

Wrecking Ball by Mother Mother.

Tongues & Teeth by The Crane Wives.

Mad Hatter by Melanie Martinez.

Curses by The Crane Wives.

Little Pistol by Mother Mother.

This December by Ricky Montgomery.

Heathens by Twenty One Pilots.

GOSSIP by Måneskin & Tom Morello.

Kill the Lights by Set It Off.

I’d Rather Drown by Set It Off.

Plastic Promises by Set It Off.

Fairly Local by Twenty One Pilots.

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Garvin’s Playlist! Reminder of his nicknames in the group: Vida and Vivi.

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John Doe by Adam Jensen.

My Alcoholic Friends by The Dresden Dolls.

Snap Out Of It by Arctic Monkeys.

Dead-Bird by McCafferty.

Running for the Gates by Marissa Sendejas.

Break My Face by AJR.

Fuck It! by Days N Daze.

Alien Blues by Vundabar.

Ain’t Nobody’s Problem by The Lumineers.

Little Poor Me by Layto.

Let the Games Begin by AJR.

Call In the Coroner by Days N Daze.

Self Destructive Anthem by Days N Daze.

PATCHWERK by Sub Urban & Two Feet.

Thnks fr th Mmrs by Fall Out Boy.

16 Shots by Stefflon Don.

Spilt Beer by Days N Daze.

Be Nice To Me by The Front Bottoms.

Side Character by The Cloudfodder.

waste of space by guccihighwaters.

I Got Drunk by Mal Blum.

Flight of the Crows by Jhariah.

Sick On Seventh Street by Sarah and the Safe Word.

Bottom by McCafferty.

Friend of the Devil by Adam Jensen.

Bare Ground by Blackbird Raum.

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Lucia’s Playlist! Reminder of her nicknames in the group: Lucky and Lulu.

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My Alcoholic Friends by The Dresden Dolls.

Snap Out Of It by Arctic Monkeys.

The Mystic by Adam Jensen.

EVIL by Melanie Martinez.

Strangers by Apes of the State.

Be Nice To Me by The Front Bottoms.

Bugbear by chloe moriondo.

Bare Ground by Blackbird Raum.

Devil Town by Cavetown.

Pierre by Ryn Weaver.

Bad Luck by Adam Jensen.

Monet Issues by Chase Petra.

Loser by Jagwar Twin.

Back In School by Mother Mother.

Saint Bernard by Lincoln.

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I bet Stellan is probably confused by the back and forth between hugging and cussing. Garvin definitely is. When he actually remembers either one happening. Garvin would so get along with Kyra and Vee (other than Jack cussing out Stellan, at least) though lmao

Bernard's biological parents weren't too terrible either, he was mostly put into foster care due to issues that were outside of everyone's control. IE, finances.

Well, to be fair, depending on which age I choose for Garvin, Akira honestly wouldn't have to do too much for redemption with him. Aka drug addict Garvin literally couldn't care less. About anything, honestly, but uh, that's an issue for later, probably, in his opinion. And Revan doesn't really need to fix his relationship with Akira. So... Yeah.

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Those incorrect quotes are amazing, I love them all.

And I would love a song for The Misfits.


Edited at August 1, 2024 12:01 AM by Overthink101
Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 1, 2024 12:32 AM


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I love all of the playlists! They're all amazing!
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Oh, for sure. At least, at first. He'd probably pick up on what was going on after a few interactions though, he kinda took on the role of a therapist in his tribe, along with being in a leadership role, so he's seen a lot and he's pretty good with stuff like that. He'd probably actually be more confused by the large, emotional reactions to him than anything, though he wouldn't question it XD
Ah, yes, the chaos grows further after adding Garvin to the equation, for sure, lmaoooo

Ah, yeah, that's understandable. Yay for Bernard not having too terrible of parents in his life! Lmao

Fair, so, depending on what age you chose for Garvin, most of the work would probably have to be with Akira and Nico, since Ingall and Akira won't have a ton of conflict either.

Nico and Akira's relationship will be a stuggle to fix though, so though it can be (mostly) fixed, it's gonna take a while. Though Nico will for sure pretend like he's totally fine and forgiven everything already. Though Briar forgiving Akira eventually will probably be the actual first step to healing because, if Briar can forgive Kira, so can Nico (according to Nico, lol)

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Glad you like them!

Alright :)

Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 1, 2024 12:57 AM


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They're all great. I so badly want to use them for something. Ahhhhh, my brain lmao
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Stellan and Bernard about to have whole conversations about Garvin's dissociation because Garvin refuses to talk about it himself and Bernard is beyond concerned.
No worries though, Stellan will at least get some hints given that Garvin (Chips) will constantly be looking for similarities and differences. Small questions like if Stellan knows how to sew, if he knows CPR, small things like that. Frankly, just in general, Stellan would get the most information and hints from Chips, as per usual.
Tons of chaos as soon as Garvin gets added to the mix. Mhm.
Bernard has the least angst out of all of my characters, I think, haha.
Yeahhh- Admittedly, at least at first. Garvin would probably need some work. Bit like. Dude is so out of it that he literally just... Doesn't even notice. Which is like, the whole point to him being out of it. He doesn't want to think about anything, doesn't want his head to keep screaming at him, soooo- Drugs, woooo. So like, they're at least fine as long as Garvin stays under the influence. As soon as he isn't... Who knows. My guy was blocking absolutely everything out for what was probably months. And even then, it's unlikely for him to have stopped completely. But, yeah, Bernard would have more to say on behalf of Garvin than Garvin would honestly. Mostly, Garvin not having any issues to work through with Akira boils down to Garvin not having any sense of self worth and just overall not caring about himself whatsoever. So. Yeah. Really, the biggest gripe Garvin would have with Akira would basically just be him repeating the issues that the others have. He doesn't have any issues of his own because he hasn't even thought about it, hasn't consider how Akira's actions have impacted him. He isn't paying any attention to that. Like. At all.
But, yeah, for sure, Nico and Akira have the most to work through.
Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 1, 2024 03:31 PM


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Okay, so, in my quest to decide what age to use for Garvin… I’ve decided to list out each option and the different routes each one could eventually take with everything going on with the kicking out and whatnot.

The ages in question-

16 turning 17

17 turning 18

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16 turning 17 has two different starting routes it could go.

Garvin either panics or he leaves with Briar and Aries. The difference that would end up deciding between those two is… Who’s fronting at the time of the argument.

If it’s someone like Jersey or Jack or overall someone who’s a more confident (or more openly self-deprecating, either one really) persecutor or protector? Chances are that leaving becomes more likely. If Garvin leaves with them though, no way to stop him from having a severe depressive spiral. There’s also the chance that, despite leaving with them, he tries to leave them the first chance he gets as well.

Meanwhile, if the one fronting is someone like Midas or Aspen or Mason or basically any of the littles or most of the sexual protectors or most of the trauma holders— Basically, anyone but the types in the above paragraph. Chances are that dissociating and panicking becomes a lot more likely. And from here, we have two more routes it could go. And it all depends on Bernard’s reaction, yay.

Bernard would notice the dissociation and panic no matter what. But, depending on how long the argument has already been going on for, depending on just how quickly Garvin seems to be slipping, depending on how on edge he is himself- His reactions could vary. Either he’ll grab Garvin and leave the room, or step into the argument. Stepping into the argument also sort of has a variable here, as depending on how on edge he is himself, he may not actually think of his ultimatum. So then when he fails to redirect or calm things down a bit, he just falls back on grabbing Garvin and leaving the room. And, of course, the other route there is the ultimatum. Let’s go over the route where Garvin gets taken out of the room though first.

If Garvin is dissociating and panicking and Bernard takes him out of the room, regardless of how long it takes for Bernard to get him out of there, we get the ‘terrified of getting kicked out’ Garvin. He’ll be trying to make his presence as small as possible. As unnoticeable as possible. He’ll be hiding from people, incredibly quiet, very certain that he’s going to get kicked out eventually, and trying to figure out what he can do to not be kicked out. Hopefully, he goes to Bernard first when he decides that his body is the only thing with any sort of worth enough to keep him from getting kicked out. Being told no by Revan or Akira would be equated to being told he’s getting kicked out, like, right then and there. Not sure about if it were Ingall or Nico first, or how they’d even react, but… Eh. Who knows. Anyways. If he goes to Bernard first, Bernard would handle it pretty well and we get the scene of Garvin breaking down and crying himself into passing out. At which point Bernard becomes the best brother ever. Mediating absolutely every interaction anyone has with Garvin. And, uh surprise, surprise, Stellan would be avoided like the plague. The pirates had kicked him out, remember? And Flood had been the Captain. The one in charge. So. Uh. Stellan, who still registers as very similar to Flood in personality and appearance, is avoided more than anyone. More than even Akira. Anyways, yeah, this route had Garvin terrified of getting kicked out, no clue what could get him kicked out, no clue who could potentially kick him out, and also very certain that he eventually will be kicked out. So, basically, he’s in pain (he does still have chronic pain and fatigue, after all), terrified, depressed, and clinging to Bernard.

Meanwhile, with the ultimatum route, Bernard convinces Akira to give him just long enough to make sure Garvin actually understands why Briar and Aries are getting kicked out. This time, Garvin slips into a depressive episode/spiral, tries to be there for Nico, is still somewhat unsure of how much space he can take up, very against authority (Akira) while in private but quietly following orders in public, and possibly using drugs to try and stave off the worst of all of the above. Which, of course, doesn’t actually do anything, but he won’t be able to tell since he’ll be under the influence. So he thinks it worked. Anyways. He avoids Stellan, falls back on drugs a bit more, and is absolutely confused and conflicted on absolutely everything.

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Truth be told, 17 turning 18 only has one starting route. Garvin falls back heavily onto/into addiction as a way to stave off what’s basically a severe depressive episode/spiral. Kind of. The severe depressive episode/spiral still happens, Garvin just literally doesn’t notice it because of the drugs. He thinks he avoided it successfully. He didn’t. Getting Nico back has him falling into addiction even more. And meeting Stellan would honestly probably cause an overdose within that day with how far Garvin would fall back on drugs immediately after meeting him.

Fun fact about this one though, Garvin and Revan would still end up together. Not sure if it'd last but, uh, yeah!

How? Why? Um. Very angsty reasons. Oops.

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Those are all of the potential routes with Garvin based on which age I choose. Still not sure which one to go with.

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Just realized that I could also technically do 15 turning 16 with the way the timeline falls.

That'd be so horrible for him. Depending on exactly it starts. like- If it's May or mid June, Garvin would still be in the sketchy gang/mafia. And if it's May, depending on if its mid May or late May, Yari could possibly still be alive at first. Which means you could get to see just all of that terrible stuff. Also means the Elemental Elder would get cut by a switchblade instead of a pocket knife, haha. Also would mean that you'd get to see/deal with just the worst July, like, ever. Um.

Also would just mean that Briar and Aries getting kicked out would be taken better and worse at the exact same time. Depends heavily on the type of headmate fronting for exacts though.


Edited at August 2, 2024 05:15 PM by Overthink101
Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 2, 2024 07:58 PM


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Working on a AFCS short story.
I need to know a few things-
We've discussed that Garvin's memory would end up being a topic of concern, especially when it comes to triggers because he wouldn't remember what triggered him at all, soooo-
Who's most concerned about his memory, just in general?
Who gets to try and figure stuff out whenever something happens?
Basically- I want more information about how everyone be dealing with Garvin's absolute terrible memory.
I know that Garvin's kind of just accepted that he has a bad memory, and if anything- He just complains about it to himself sometimes. You know, just another thing he can beat himself up about.
Revan doesn't tend to outwardly show his concern about it. Mostly, he just gets things for Garvin that could help him handle it. Revan's concerned but, well, he can't let anyone know that and, hey, if he can figure out ways to help him handle it then he doesn't need to worry. Unfortunately, a lot of what he buys Garvin for that goes unused either because Garvin can't read or write... Or because Garvin's uncomfortable with people buying things for him... Or because Garvin forgot that Revan got him whatever it is. Which... Revan's worried about. But. Again. He isn't about to actually ask anything or assume anything or bring it up at all. Nope. Not when that makes it a bit too obvious that he cares. So... Yeah.
Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 2, 2024 10:28 PM


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Oh yeah, definitely conversations about Garvin's dissassociation, for sure. Probably mostly Stellan attempting to help calm Bernard's worries about it and explain potential reasons for it, while also being aware of how serious it all is, haha
Ah, yep, that should help, thank you Chips XD
Yeahhhhh, lots of work fr Garvin. Luckily lots of help though, especially from Stellan and (I'm assuming) Bernard. Possibly Briar too, actually, once they get their own footing again :)
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Ooooo
Okay, all the options sound very fun and amazing, so I'm great with anything. Though 17 to 18 is honestly catching my attention at the moment, mostly due to the "very angsty reasons" Garvin and Revan would still end up together without further explanation, lmao
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Hmmm, good question, let's see-
Of mine, Nico is very much the most (outwardly) worried. If anyone is going to try questioning or prying, it's Nico. While the others have their own quiet worry, Nico's going to be very vocal about his. Like, she's observant, but once emotions are involved, awareness of other things kinda goes away and they want to fix what's going on in the moment, so, yeah, most likely a lot of concerned questioning from Nico.
Ingall would be somewhat similar to Revan, actually, with getting stuff to help Garvin deal with it. The difference would be he'd also end up tracking things for his own knowledge. Writing down when he notices a change in Garvin's behavior at all or sees him forget something, noting down triggers, and probably doing some research as to what could cause things like this. That said, Gall might end up figuring out what's actually happening before the others, but he'd probably just keep it quiet and try out some of the suggested tactics to help someone struggling with DID or OSDD to see if anything helps at all. Probably also some gentle audio and visual reminders casually dropped in whenever he can see Garvin struggling but doesn't want to draw attention to it.
And Akira would very much just sit in silent worry. Like, they're panicking but have zero idea what to do about it. They'd really just end up constantly silently checking in on Garvin and casually suggesting more hangout sessions and late night talks.
Can't wait for the story! :)
Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 2, 2024 10:56 PM


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Yeahhh, very serious discussions about all the dissociation. Bernard is very worried, but he's most worried about the implications. Bernard knows enough to know that dissociation is a response to trauma. And he is very worried by how quickly Garvin seems to resort to it.
Chips really be out here carrying the healing arc lmao
Bernard and Stellan quietly adopting Garvin is going to be hilarious.
But, yeah, Bernard would totally be at least trying to help.
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Further explanation is, uh-
So... You know how I said that Revan would not be good at handling the whole... Garvin begging them to fuck him while he's 100% not present and wouldn't even get to the love guilt trip stage?
Uhm.
Yeah.
It has to do with that.
Aka
Revan's even worse at handling it now.
The 'Too Sweet' lyric thing I did actually kind of touches on the reasoning. More so the updated lines of-
'They treat their mouths as if they're heaven's gates.' (Garvin)
'The rest of them as if they're TSA.' (Revan)
Ummmm
Okay
So.
I think I should be explaining a bit more. Or better.
Revan has only ever dated one other person. Monta. And in that relationship, I won't lie, physical intimacy was common and usually initiated by Monta who primarily was using it as a way to cope. So, thus, Revan's much more prone to the idea of it being a way to cope and with his previous relationship with Monta, he also knows that it can work fairly well. Not perfectly, but it's something. Right?
Another thing though, is that Garvin knows that Revan doesn't want people to know he cares. It's easy enough for him to read into that. It's even easier to use that as justification for him being under the influence for it. No one will know Revan cares because Garvin himself won't even remember it.
Add in Revan and Garvin working out a deal that Garvin leaves Revan alone outside of... That stuff... And you have what would be happening with the 17 turning 18 route.
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Oooo, love all that
Most of the memory issues are DID, though Garvin being AuDHD definitely doesn't help anything.
The story takes place earlier on with the polycule. Like, relatively recently after they start living together. It's an aftermath one too, starts with Garvin getting out of whatever had been triggered and struggling to remember what even happened. If all of that helps narrowing down the reactions to his memory.
What sort of questions would Nico ask?
Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 2, 2024 10:56 PM


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Alright, I finally got up an AFCS post, yay! It's a little rough, I have to get back into the feel of the actual RP, lmao
Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 2, 2024 11:03 PM


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I loved the post, it was amazing.
And, yeah, totally fair, we be talking about future stuff so much lol
Whispers Cost | DiscussionAugust 2, 2024 11:04 PM


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Very fair, yeah, Stellan will certainly help as much as he can, lol
And we love him for that XD
Yesss, I love it
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Ah
I see
Very fun, very angsty, and very interesting, I kinda love it while also feeling very, very bad, lmao
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Understandable, haha
Ooo, fun!
In that case, Akira's actually probably more likely to do their version of damage control, which is mostly just offering a drink, a cigarette, and either a (affectionately called) yap session or just chill hangout, lol
Angel's still doin' his thing. As Ingall does :)
And prbably panicked questions mostly, ones that don't really help for the most part, haha. Are you alright? What's happening? Do you want to talk about it? And, of course, the standard Nico 'How can I help you?'
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Glad you liked it! And yeah, I love it though, lmao

Edited at August 2, 2024 11:05 PM by Lost Memories

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