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 VioletEcho
03:39:14 Aria<3
XD no clue what that means but thanks!! I'll ask you about when I see you on chat again! ^^
 Amygdala
03:38:25 Amy
Bye
 Amygdala
03:38:12 Amy
Good game XD
And just a tip...max out their battle stat first so they hit fore more
 VioletEcho
03:37:57 Aria<3
good game Amy! and bye!
 VioletEcho
03:36:32 Aria<3
okay cool and same I have school these notes aren't ganna write themselves XD
 Amygdala
03:34:36 Amy
Aria...okay one more very fast...then i have to head back to work XD
 VioletEcho
03:32:59 Aria<3
Amy, its okay don't worry too much but thanks :) if you want too we can I don't mind but thank you<3
 Amygdala
03:32:46 Amy
Aria...i will wait for that day XD
 VioletEcho
03:32:18 Aria<3
Good game Amy!! I'm going either figure out how to get better wolves, or make them better and then mark my words ^^ one day I will beat you in a pvp! :)
 Amygdala
03:32:16 Amy
Aria...i feel sorry for your wolf good game anyway. If you want to go again i can go with a less experienced wolf
 Amygdala
03:27:28 Amy
Aria
Okay i putted one up
 VioletEcho
03:26:43 Aria<3
haha thats sounds interesting, lets go! XD
okay cool thanks! coz I don't think any of mine have boosts
 Amygdala
03:24:42 Amy
If you want we can go without boost
 Amygdala
03:24:21 Amy
Aria...i'm having a contest with leo to see who can have more pvp wins in a week XD
 VioletEcho
03:23:26 Aria<3
Amy, I'm down to go again and help you increase your PVP rank😭😂lol jokes
 Jack-A-Boo
03:23:17 Boo, Vapor (he/Him)
I have like an hour to sleep before I have to wake up :)
 Insane Sanity
03:23:08 
Fine, fine. I am going <.<
 TheWildOne
03:21:12 TWO or Wild
Don't you have work tomorrow?
 VioletEcho
03:19:58 Aria<3
Moon??
 Amygdala
03:19:57 Amy
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Art struggles...May 12, 2021 05:10 PM

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So I'm having issues... I have the hardest time telling someone no, even when it comes to making art. I'm currently working on commissions again, and I've been heavily lowballed by players consistently, even when I give a MUCH lower than usual price. (My art usually goes for multiple apples and just recently I've started taking mush for payment, and I've been getting less than 1k mush inquiries for commissions-) and the worst part is this art is still expected from me even when I've expressed a distaste in the payment I'm going to receive. Even if I blatantly say "look, these aren't prices I'm comfortable with."
I guess it's just crushing. I don't want to sound like a complete jerk but holy crap, art is hard! And I work so hard on what few pieces I do, and if I'm gonna make some art for someone, I want to be paid what I ask for.
but I can't. Say. No. Like I'm about to start fucking blocking these people, you know? It makes me feel like my work isn't worth what I think it is.

I don't know, I probably sound like an ass but like- if I'm doing something for someone, I don't expect less than I ask for. And I wish I had the confidence to say what I want to: "if you can't pay what I ask, then I cannot draw what you want."
Have any other artists had this problem before? ;-;

Edited at May 12, 2021 05:11 PM by Sjuk.
Art struggles...May 12, 2021 06:25 PM

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Drop their @s I'll say no for you :< [My dudes, for legal purposes I am joking]
But- Yeah this is a pretty typical thing ;; Some people just,, don't exactly understand the value of art nor respect artists. It's fuckin tough man- but with ignorant twats you just gotta learn to stand your ground, as hard as it is ;;

Either they'll respect and come back when they have the correct currency, or they'll be an asshole about it, and in the second case you don't wanna draw for 'em anyway-

Your art is worth more than the opinions of cheap strangers, I promise you.
Art struggles...May 12, 2021 07:08 PM

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I completely understand auctually, I,pretty sure my backgrounds are at least worth an apple but I can on,y sell them for around 300 mush
Art struggles...May 25, 2021 12:03 PM

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I never know what to put as a price XD
So I just throw a random number I feel happy with...but yeah, I think I might be making it too low just cause I like it when people like my art and only recently I decided to focus more on my idea and not worry too much about pleasing everyone.
My art is kinda slow going cart at the moment-gotta lot to do IRL.
But to me it helped opening "Free art thread" or throwing giveaways and when asked about prices in my, now closed, shop I would just let them know that they can get a chance for my art in my Free art tread or in a giveaway. I am guilty of lowballing too ;-; actually was, year and more ago when I just started and didn't know how hard art really is. I am sorry for that ;-; I was stupid and though art is easier then anything on WP and easiest way to get mush...which is so far from actual truth since exploring won't ask for edits, or give you weird looking refference or just written description, you don't have to think about it, or redo a line dozen of times or look up tutorials. @Kobel gave perfect answer here <3
Art struggles...May 25, 2021 12:08 PM

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You probably know for Autum Willows and their master pieces. They don't sell art and I think I know why-no one here is rich enough to pay what they deserve, 40+ apples in my opinion. So when they wanna art they do it for free and have these little messages in Sales Chat, players PM their ideas, they pick what they want and draw it for free. I got lucky once with that <3 really special. Life ain't easy nor fair X)
They are not the only artist whose work deserves 10+ apples, but I mentioned them cause of their unique way of doing it.
Sweet Tea is amazing too, but I didn't figure out how to get that art just yet.

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