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 Existence
03:59:54 Exist / Kuskyn
It states at the bottom of the custom pack "Defects and Boosts cannot be applied."
 Existence
03:58:57 Exist / Kuskyn
Ghoulish, you can't customise a boost or defect onto a wolf, you can only View them to see how they look.
 Ghoulish
03:57:37 
Brooo I’m so annoyed I made and PAID for a custom wolf with infatuation and I went to my den it’s basic no boost ZERO I made sure to double check before I bought it to I know it had the boost
 Pink kitty🐈
03:57:35 Kneecap stealer
Is that existence :0
 Existence
03:56:00 Exist / Kuskyn
Collar man, tasty noodles thank you xD
 Pink kitty🐈
03:49:10 Kneecap stealer
I appreciate the thought and love I can clearly see you put into this art <3 but I'm not too much of an artsy fan
 Pink kitty🐈
03:48:16 Kneecap stealer
Sabbath

I'll take them all, one by one >:) make them into soup, plus it distracts me from the pain
 Collar
03:42:55 Altar 🦌
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😔 offering you some art in these trying times, Pink Kitty. Hope you feel better soon :(
 Sabbath
03:41:32 Rook
Not until the morning/afternoon
 Pink kitty🐈
03:41:12 Kneecap stealer
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Go into labor so I can pop you and sleep already
 Pink kitty🐈
03:40:52 Kneecap stealer
Oh by the way you got any duds for the dud Souper (me)
 Sabbath
03:38:46 Rook
Kitty
That all sounds like a lot to deal with :( I'm sorry you're having to deal with that alone. Dogs are hard work, even more so when they're puppies.
 Pink kitty🐈
03:25:37 Kneecap stealer
So I'm stressed
 Pink kitty🐈
03:25:14 Kneecap stealer
And this is while I'm taking care of myself, the cat, our other dog, bella, the house, and trying to make sure my husband comes home on the 20th
 Pink kitty🐈
03:24:11 Kneecap stealer
And the pain from my shoulder spread like 2 inches down my arm (still in the general area of the shoulder)
 Collar
03:22:47 Altar 🦌
Yes :] Trust :] It is 1am and Ive been so well behaved
 Pink kitty🐈
03:22:23 Kneecap stealer
We have a full blood pit bull puppy right? And lately I've been in a ton of pain but I still manage to take her ass out CoNsTaNtLy, every 30 minutes, even when she wakes up from a nap, so here I am, lying in bed trying to get through the pain until I go to the hospital later and all I smell is dog shit (I just brought her back in from almost 2 hours of being outside) and I go into the living room and all I see, is the living room is torn up and there's multiple piles of dog shit everywhere, so I'm going to clean up all the dog crap y'know? And when I'm almost done cleaning the sight and smell is too much for my weak stomach and I throw up, so I gotta take the outside trash to the dumpster later, the inside trash outside then put the outside trash in the dumpster yet again, then clean out the trash can in the living room because I threw up in it, then I gotta scrub every inch of CARPET clean so she doesn't smell her own shit anymore, all while Im supposed to keep my shoulder still and let it heal, so now Im sick, I'm mad, and I'm hurting (bad combination with me) and I remind myself this is why I hate dogs (no offense to any dog owners who might see it) so yea, my day is already stressful
 Sabbath
03:21:33 Rook
Hmm have you though?
 Collar
03:21:15 Altar 🦌
Give me paws ive been so good today
 Sabbath
03:20:10 Rook
The earthquake weather event has trapped me in explore

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 Existence
03:59:54 Exist / Kuskyn
It states at the bottom of the custom pack "Defects and Boosts cannot be applied."
 Existence
03:58:57 Exist / Kuskyn
Ghoulish, you can't customise a boost or defect onto a wolf, you can only View them to see how they look.
 Ghoulish
03:57:37 
Brooo I’m so annoyed I made and PAID for a custom wolf with infatuation and I went to my den it’s basic no boost ZERO I made sure to double check before I bought it to I know it had the boost
 Pink kitty🐈
03:57:35 Kneecap stealer
Is that existence :0
 Existence
03:56:00 Exist / Kuskyn
Collar man, tasty noodles thank you xD
 Pink kitty🐈
03:49:10 Kneecap stealer
I appreciate the thought and love I can clearly see you put into this art <3 but I'm not too much of an artsy fan
 Pink kitty🐈
03:48:16 Kneecap stealer
Sabbath

I'll take them all, one by one >:) make them into soup, plus it distracts me from the pain
 Collar
03:42:55 Altar 🦌
-Click-

😔 offering you some art in these trying times, Pink Kitty. Hope you feel better soon :(
 Sabbath
03:41:32 Rook
Not until the morning/afternoon
 Pink kitty🐈
03:41:12 Kneecap stealer
-WP Click-

Go into labor so I can pop you and sleep already
 Pink kitty🐈
03:40:52 Kneecap stealer
Oh by the way you got any duds for the dud Souper (me)
 Sabbath
03:38:46 Rook
Kitty
That all sounds like a lot to deal with :( I'm sorry you're having to deal with that alone. Dogs are hard work, even more so when they're puppies.
 Pink kitty🐈
03:25:37 Kneecap stealer
So I'm stressed
 Pink kitty🐈
03:25:14 Kneecap stealer
And this is while I'm taking care of myself, the cat, our other dog, bella, the house, and trying to make sure my husband comes home on the 20th
 Pink kitty🐈
03:24:11 Kneecap stealer
And the pain from my shoulder spread like 2 inches down my arm (still in the general area of the shoulder)
 Collar
03:22:47 Altar 🦌
Yes :] Trust :] It is 1am and Ive been so well behaved
 Pink kitty🐈
03:22:23 Kneecap stealer
We have a full blood pit bull puppy right? And lately I've been in a ton of pain but I still manage to take her ass out CoNsTaNtLy, every 30 minutes, even when she wakes up from a nap, so here I am, lying in bed trying to get through the pain until I go to the hospital later and all I smell is dog shit (I just brought her back in from almost 2 hours of being outside) and I go into the living room and all I see, is the living room is torn up and there's multiple piles of dog shit everywhere, so I'm going to clean up all the dog crap y'know? And when I'm almost done cleaning the sight and smell is too much for my weak stomach and I throw up, so I gotta take the outside trash to the dumpster later, the inside trash outside then put the outside trash in the dumpster yet again, then clean out the trash can in the living room because I threw up in it, then I gotta scrub every inch of CARPET clean so she doesn't smell her own shit anymore, all while Im supposed to keep my shoulder still and let it heal, so now Im sick, I'm mad, and I'm hurting (bad combination with me) and I remind myself this is why I hate dogs (no offense to any dog owners who might see it) so yea, my day is already stressful
 Sabbath
03:21:33 Rook
Hmm have you though?
 Collar
03:21:15 Altar 🦌
Give me paws ive been so good today
 Sabbath
03:20:10 Rook
The earthquake weather event has trapped me in explore




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Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 04:51 PM


Wolf's Bane

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Crazydayz said:
Ooh, interesting! I was thinking the pup mortality may be a bit lower due to such a large pack protecting them but we could always add in a few pups to be killed.
Also, yes, I do mean the night in the roleplay setting.

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Crazydayz said:
Question: Timeskips, how do we feel about them? They'd be a month at max. I'd warn you guys that when we go into the night it will be a timeskip, so no sudden scene halts.
Also, how do we feel about me initiating random events to keep up activity? (Eg: Drought, animal attack)


For time skips, as long as they're reasonable and don't skip over anything significant, I think most people would agree.
Just to confirm (and I know this might sound dumb, I'm just clueless in general lol), when you say "when we go into the night", you mean the day is over in the roleplay, right? Not irl?
Random events would totally help the roleplay. They can even push the storyline to the plot twists we need.
Another thing that I think we need to address is that wolf pup mortality rate is 40%-60% (or at least, that's what the online sources say. It could be even higher.) This could allow us to create pups that inevitably die (not including the ones we've created, assuming that we don't want them to die quite yet), because I'm not sure if it's realistic for such a large pack to have such few pups.
Alternative plot twist that could come out of this: a pup death turns out to not be an accident.




Thanks for confirming! I'm assuming that since the pack is already so large, it must mean that the pup mortality rate is much lower. I realized that this might be necessary after seeing that pup litters usually have between 4-7 pups (although realistically speaking - not referring to a pack as enormous as this one - fewer than half of the pups survive to adulthood.)
The pairing tradition, as well as Rule 3 (most mates over age 4 will have pups) means that with two surviving pups from separate litters (among the other pup-less mates), there must be at least a few pup deaths.
Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 04:53 PM


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We could also use the excuse of an unusual amount of stillbirths? I dunno, maybe there's some genetic reason. We could always just have the normal birth rate lowered for the pack so that 2-4 pups are usually born instead
Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 04:53 PM


Wolf's Bane

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Crazydayz said:
Okay, another idea, I'll probably need to implement this one. Me narrating the time frame every so often so we don't get stuck on one day like in some roleplays.
Eg: It is a frosty morning | The sun is at it's highest point by now. All wolves should be awake and active | The sun is setting, wolves should start heading back to camp


This seems like a pretty smooth and seamless way to transition between times of day. We can't have too much drama occur in a single day, so skipping over some time to the next event could help.
Another thing I realized - does the pack have patrolling and hunting schedules? I know that there's wolves who leave camp and don't return for a long time, but other than that, would the alphas and betas organize exploration teams, border patrol teams, hunting teams, etc.?
Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 04:57 PM


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Crazydayz said:
We could also use the excuse of an unusual amount of stillbirths? I dunno, maybe there's some genetic reason. We could always just have the normal birth rate lowered for the pack so that 2-4 pups are usually born instead


Actually, I like that.
Also, to add onto the pup mortality thing, what if the pack lives in a generally cold place? Like up in the mountains, where they can really feel the impact of winter? Or alternatively, the seasons really affect them, which cause pups to die of malnutrition (or a LOT of them have high metabolism.)
Or there's a lot of predators in the area, which contributes to the "random events" - they don't occur super often, but enough so that the pack requires good fighters to prevent more incidents. Of course, though, having a lot of predators would mean that prey is generally abundant, so the pack would worry less about starvation.
Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 05:38 PM


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Hello All~
Hope y'all like Clem & Guak
Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 05:43 PM


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I like the idea of the seasons really effecting them. Maybe that's why summer was chosen for the ceremony? Because it's the best season for survival?

Wolf's Bane Pack said:

Crazydayz said:
We could also use the excuse of an unusual amount of stillbirths? I dunno, maybe there's some genetic reason. We could always just have the normal birth rate lowered for the pack so that 2-4 pups are usually born instead


Actually, I like that.
Also, to add onto the pup mortality thing, what if the pack lives in a generally cold place? Like up in the mountains, where they can really feel the impact of winter? Or alternatively, the seasons really affect them, which cause pups to die of malnutrition (or a LOT of them have high metabolism.)
Or there's a lot of predators in the area, which contributes to the "random events" - they don't occur super often, but enough so that the pack requires good fighters to prevent more incidents. Of course, though, having a lot of predators would mean that prey is generally abundant, so the pack would worry less about starvation.


Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 05:47 PM


Wolf's Bane

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Crazydayz said:
I like the idea of the seasons really effecting them. Maybe that's why summer was chosen for the ceremony? Because it's the best season for survival?

Wolf's Bane Pack said:

Crazydayz said:
We could also use the excuse of an unusual amount of stillbirths? I dunno, maybe there's some genetic reason. We could always just have the normal birth rate lowered for the pack so that 2-4 pups are usually born instead


Actually, I like that.
Also, to add onto the pup mortality thing, what if the pack lives in a generally cold place? Like up in the mountains, where they can really feel the impact of winter? Or alternatively, the seasons really affect them, which cause pups to die of malnutrition (or a LOT of them have high metabolism.)
Or there's a lot of predators in the area, which contributes to the "random events" - they don't occur super often, but enough so that the pack requires good fighters to prevent more incidents. Of course, though, having a lot of predators would mean that prey is generally abundant, so the pack would worry less about starvation.




That makes a lot of sense. Spring is also a nice time, but I imagine that there would be plenty of animals out of hibernation. Wolf breeding actually takes place around spring and pups are born around May or early June, so it's like two consecutive celebrations - one for the pups being born, another for the pairing ceremony.
"Welp, now that the predators are dealt with, we can move on to convincing these young fellas that initiating forced relationships is a good idea -"
Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 05:50 PM


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Lmao. Also, "Look! Pups! They're so cute, don't you just want some of your own? (Feed our greed for a larger pack please"
Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 05:51 PM


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Spellbound said:
Hello All~
Hope y'all like Clem & Guak


I think Clem and Guak are both really interesting. Guak is the embodiment of wintry calmness, and Clem is a flawless fit for Malakai, but I love how she's NOT another clone of his sadistic personality - she's very calculating and she arouses fear, but she doesn't have an emotionless demeanor.
Destiny (Isnt always fair) | Discussion ThreadJanuary 3, 2024 05:53 PM


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Ah yes, true love.

Wolf's Bane Pack said:

Spellbound said:
Hello All~
Hope y'all like Clem & Guak


I think Clem and Guak are both really interesting. Guak is the embodiment of wintry calmness, and Clem is a flawless fit for Malakai, but I love how she's NOT another clone of his sadistic personality - she's very calculating and she arouses fear, but she doesn't have an emotionless demeanor.



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