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 Magnus Bane
04:34:17 Mama Maggy
A new crystalline pelt would help the market XD
 Destinations End
04:34:10 Toliska, Desti, Coy
It's fine. I was just letting you both know that that kind of thing is only allowed in sales.

@Mag
Some people do, yeah
 Moonshade Pack
04:33:27 Moon, Eclipse
Magnus
I honestly have no idea.
 Moonshade Pack
04:33:09 Moon, Eclipse
Katts
I guess you have your answer.
 Magnus Bane
04:32:59 Mama Maggy
Do people even use geodes anymore
 Moonshade Pack
04:32:44 Moon, Eclipse
Oh sorry desti
 KillerKatts
04:31:26 
I apologize
 Destinations End
04:30:43 Toliska, Desti, Coy
Pricing questions go in sales please
 Moonshade Pack
04:26:01 Moon, Eclipse
Katts
Maybe? Try and if your post gets deleted by a mod, you have your answer.
 Serpents
04:25:20 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
I need to explore and get some toucan feathers...
 Moonshade Pack
04:24:08 Moon, Eclipse
-WP Click-
 Moonshade Pack
04:24:03 Moon, Eclipse
Oml just look at this beauty! Can’t believe I got her from round 1 of WP!! Can’t wait for her pups!
 Master Darkfire
04:23:35 Dark/fire/ice/axel
Well I gotta go. I’ll be on later.
 Magnus Bane
04:23:29 Mama Maggy
Why can I never find blue jay feathers e.e
 Radium
04:23:14 Dice eats uranium
Dark,
That really sucks! Just keep being true to yourself, don't let anyone force you into unhappiness!
 KillerKatts
04:23:12 
Question, am I allowed to ask for help on pricing a wolf in this chat as long as I'm not advertising a sale?
 Master Darkfire
04:20:45 Dark/fire/ice/axel
Radium! Noice!! First one I found!! Yay!! 😁 my parents are ESPECIALLY against trans. Whelp.
 Master Darkfire
04:19:49 Dark/fire/ice/axel
Life just hates me. Giving me the worst parents to be a furry,therian AND greysexual. Like SHEESH.🙄 I won’t reveal being greysexual or being a furry to a lot later in life but I need therian gear. My dad already belives in past lives. (I think)
 Radium
04:18:46 Dice eats uranium
Dark,
As a fellow Grey sexual I'm so sorry to hear your parents are unsupportive. I hope that they become more open minded with time. :(
 Serpents
04:17:35 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
If I missed stuff sorry either A i did not know I was summined or B was not here and now im off to do elicpical

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 Magnus Bane
04:34:17 Mama Maggy
A new crystalline pelt would help the market XD
 Destinations End
04:34:10 Toliska, Desti, Coy
It's fine. I was just letting you both know that that kind of thing is only allowed in sales.

@Mag
Some people do, yeah
 Moonshade Pack
04:33:27 Moon, Eclipse
Magnus
I honestly have no idea.
 Moonshade Pack
04:33:09 Moon, Eclipse
Katts
I guess you have your answer.
 Magnus Bane
04:32:59 Mama Maggy
Do people even use geodes anymore
 Moonshade Pack
04:32:44 Moon, Eclipse
Oh sorry desti
 KillerKatts
04:31:26 
I apologize
 Destinations End
04:30:43 Toliska, Desti, Coy
Pricing questions go in sales please
 Moonshade Pack
04:26:01 Moon, Eclipse
Katts
Maybe? Try and if your post gets deleted by a mod, you have your answer.
 Serpents
04:25:20 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
I need to explore and get some toucan feathers...
 Moonshade Pack
04:24:08 Moon, Eclipse
-WP Click-
 Moonshade Pack
04:24:03 Moon, Eclipse
Oml just look at this beauty! Can’t believe I got her from round 1 of WP!! Can’t wait for her pups!
 Master Darkfire
04:23:35 Dark/fire/ice/axel
Well I gotta go. I’ll be on later.
 Magnus Bane
04:23:29 Mama Maggy
Why can I never find blue jay feathers e.e
 Radium
04:23:14 Dice eats uranium
Dark,
That really sucks! Just keep being true to yourself, don't let anyone force you into unhappiness!
 KillerKatts
04:23:12 
Question, am I allowed to ask for help on pricing a wolf in this chat as long as I'm not advertising a sale?
 Master Darkfire
04:20:45 Dark/fire/ice/axel
Radium! Noice!! First one I found!! Yay!! 😁 my parents are ESPECIALLY against trans. Whelp.
 Master Darkfire
04:19:49 Dark/fire/ice/axel
Life just hates me. Giving me the worst parents to be a furry,therian AND greysexual. Like SHEESH.🙄 I won’t reveal being greysexual or being a furry to a lot later in life but I need therian gear. My dad already belives in past lives. (I think)
 Radium
04:18:46 Dice eats uranium
Dark,
As a fellow Grey sexual I'm so sorry to hear your parents are unsupportive. I hope that they become more open minded with time. :(
 Serpents
04:17:35 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
If I missed stuff sorry either A i did not know I was summined or B was not here and now im off to do elicpical




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Ecifircas

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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