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 Moonfall
05:45:08 Many moons, one me
Personally, I think an AI will be helpful and help further our understanding of science and medicine.
HOWEVER, what we currently call AI is terrible and I believe we should scrap it until we know how to put in guidelines so we can minimize or completely stop all the harmful side effects. And maybe put a ban on generative AI until people learn that 10 times out of 10, handmade is better and has more soul. Even if it's the worst stick figure ever
 Cloudy bird
05:44:56 
Petri Dish
YIKES, that sounds painful. Wishing speedy recovery for you :(
 Eye of Eternity
05:44:48 tern | they/he
cloudy
yeah its also really scary how easily it can be tricked into telling someone to take harmful actions against themselves or others
 EvergreenHills
05:44:34 Juicy Arm Boy
Flying
Awh that sucks :/

Welcome back <3
 TheFlyingKitten
05:43:57 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
I'm back! Could only eat half of my dinner thanks to my broken tooth, lol.
 Kitties
05:43:51 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
Here's where y'all are getting confused. Generative AI creates new things, which is why we see hallucinations. Non generative AI doesn't create new things it only analyzes what it's given. That's why generative AI is bad, but non generative AI is almost essential.
 EvergreenHills
05:43:48 Juicy Arm Boy
Can we stop talking about ai :/
 Cloudy bird
05:43:23 
(soz, the website i am referring to is 'this-person-does-not-exist' website
 Cloudy bird
05:42:50 
Ah back in the days before generative AI images, I would use the random generators. Or the -Click- website, when I needed inspiration
 SouthernScorpion
05:41:19 Scorpion
Ai has also been researched and proven to stalemate your creativity. artists that use AI are mentally affect by AI, very badly whether they realize it or not, it has sadly been proven to kill creativity
 Cloudy bird
05:41:07 
tern
Yep, it also encourages "dual psychosis": when perosn solely uses AI for therapeutic reasons, eventually AI was known to encourage the person's delusions or feed into it. Not out of maliciousnes -> but cause it just reflects the feelings. ChatGPT is one of the notorious models to do this
 Kitties
05:40:32 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
@Eye of eternity
ChatGPT is generative, I don't like generative models as yes they do hallucinate. Other forms of AI don't though.
 Eye of Eternity
05:40:09 tern | they/he
owlstar
dont use it for that. ai for art is never acceptable. trust me, you can find good free linearts, poses, photographs, sketches, whatever you want to reference made by a real person
same for backgrounds- or just make them yourself
 SouthernScorpion
05:39:44 Scorpion
Oh! someone just gave me a apple gift <3 thank you unknown
 Kitties
05:39:43 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
Guys that's generative AI. There's
Non generative AIs that help us analyze things. It's easily researchable. AI is a broad term that encompasses Machine learning, Neural networks, Deep learning, and AI. I work with neural networks all the time for experiments on how things affect the brain while alive. As of right now the only way to do that is via neural networks which are copies of the human brain.
 SouthernScorpion
05:38:18 Scorpion
when i said medical field, i meant in actual medical work (it can be used carefully to detect early cancer) but should always be checked by a human. using AI for art or research is not only theft, it's bad for the environment and it's bad for the creative using it
 Cloudy bird
05:37:46 
(also to add AI is useful in recognising images of cancer in xrays or other such scans... however an alternative is trained pigeons and I like that alternative much more :3 )
 Eye of Eternity
05:37:30 tern | they/he
kit
it also hallucinates a lot. i believe 38%? of the newest chatgpt model's answers are entirely hallucinated
 Apothecary
05:37:27 Medicinally Autistic
Exactly, it pulls ALL statistics, even ones that aren't necessarily true or correct.
 Kitties
05:36:14 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
AI is used to analyze statistics in pretty much all areas of research. Pretty much all predictions we make and patterns we discover are assisted by AI. AI isn't just the stuff you find on the internet.

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 Moonfall
05:45:08 Many moons, one me
Personally, I think an AI will be helpful and help further our understanding of science and medicine.
HOWEVER, what we currently call AI is terrible and I believe we should scrap it until we know how to put in guidelines so we can minimize or completely stop all the harmful side effects. And maybe put a ban on generative AI until people learn that 10 times out of 10, handmade is better and has more soul. Even if it's the worst stick figure ever
 Cloudy bird
05:44:56 
Petri Dish
YIKES, that sounds painful. Wishing speedy recovery for you :(
 Eye of Eternity
05:44:48 tern | they/he
cloudy
yeah its also really scary how easily it can be tricked into telling someone to take harmful actions against themselves or others
 EvergreenHills
05:44:34 Juicy Arm Boy
Flying
Awh that sucks :/

Welcome back <3
 TheFlyingKitten
05:43:57 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
I'm back! Could only eat half of my dinner thanks to my broken tooth, lol.
 Kitties
05:43:51 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
Here's where y'all are getting confused. Generative AI creates new things, which is why we see hallucinations. Non generative AI doesn't create new things it only analyzes what it's given. That's why generative AI is bad, but non generative AI is almost essential.
 EvergreenHills
05:43:48 Juicy Arm Boy
Can we stop talking about ai :/
 Cloudy bird
05:43:23 
(soz, the website i am referring to is 'this-person-does-not-exist' website
 Cloudy bird
05:42:50 
Ah back in the days before generative AI images, I would use the random generators. Or the -Click- website, when I needed inspiration
 SouthernScorpion
05:41:19 Scorpion
Ai has also been researched and proven to stalemate your creativity. artists that use AI are mentally affect by AI, very badly whether they realize it or not, it has sadly been proven to kill creativity
 Cloudy bird
05:41:07 
tern
Yep, it also encourages "dual psychosis": when perosn solely uses AI for therapeutic reasons, eventually AI was known to encourage the person's delusions or feed into it. Not out of maliciousnes -> but cause it just reflects the feelings. ChatGPT is one of the notorious models to do this
 Kitties
05:40:32 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
@Eye of eternity
ChatGPT is generative, I don't like generative models as yes they do hallucinate. Other forms of AI don't though.
 Eye of Eternity
05:40:09 tern | they/he
owlstar
dont use it for that. ai for art is never acceptable. trust me, you can find good free linearts, poses, photographs, sketches, whatever you want to reference made by a real person
same for backgrounds- or just make them yourself
 SouthernScorpion
05:39:44 Scorpion
Oh! someone just gave me a apple gift <3 thank you unknown
 Kitties
05:39:43 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
Guys that's generative AI. There's
Non generative AIs that help us analyze things. It's easily researchable. AI is a broad term that encompasses Machine learning, Neural networks, Deep learning, and AI. I work with neural networks all the time for experiments on how things affect the brain while alive. As of right now the only way to do that is via neural networks which are copies of the human brain.
 SouthernScorpion
05:38:18 Scorpion
when i said medical field, i meant in actual medical work (it can be used carefully to detect early cancer) but should always be checked by a human. using AI for art or research is not only theft, it's bad for the environment and it's bad for the creative using it
 Cloudy bird
05:37:46 
(also to add AI is useful in recognising images of cancer in xrays or other such scans... however an alternative is trained pigeons and I like that alternative much more :3 )
 Eye of Eternity
05:37:30 tern | they/he
kit
it also hallucinates a lot. i believe 38%? of the newest chatgpt model's answers are entirely hallucinated
 Apothecary
05:37:27 Medicinally Autistic
Exactly, it pulls ALL statistics, even ones that aren't necessarily true or correct.
 Kitties
05:36:14 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
AI is used to analyze statistics in pretty much all areas of research. Pretty much all predictions we make and patterns we discover are assisted by AI. AI isn't just the stuff you find on the internet.




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