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 Boeing
04:03:49 Boe is a bear, Rawr!
Cae
holdup- chat works? I've never actually tried chat actually, huh that's news
I submitted a bug report and Eve said it's something to do with the server not liking my IP but I don't know much more than that
A makeshift solution I've found to bypass it is using a vpn but then it's not the greatest and temporary at best
 SammytheRaccoon
04:02:39 Sam/Samuel/Racc
back on that comms grind
 SammytheRaccoon
04:02:26 Sam/Samuel/Racc
my wrist feels better
 Caeruleum
04:01:10 Cae, Blue
boe, yep! chat works just fine, but God forbid i try opening new page or reloading the current one :') then its just "tab not responding" over and over for a couple of minutes
 The Reaper
03:59:34 Reaper / Grim
I sat here wondering what I did that pissed my wolves off (pack happiness) before realizing they were just hangry XD
 Boeing
03:59:16 Boe is a bear, Rawr!
Cae
Oh wait you're getting something similar? o.o
Is it something like where WP just randomly freezes for a couple of minutes and flat-out refuses to load anything for no reason?
 Caeruleum
03:57:43 Cae, Blue
yeahhh :D

boe, oh, that rarely shows up for me <.<
 Desire of The Hills
03:55:39 Hills / Desire
Ohh my pack happiness just increased almost double lol
 Caeruleum
03:55:36 Cae, Blue
no problem ^^ its a feature i quite frankly cannot live without, now that its a thing lol
 Boeing
03:55:04 Boe is a bear, Rawr!
Cae, Cat
It's fine lol
That's definitely wierd, no that's different to what I've been getting for weeks
I'm getting this
-Click-
 Desire of The Hills
03:54:21 Hills / Desire
@Cea

Oh alright, thank you!!
 Caeruleum
03:53:34 Cae, Blue
as in, it takes all your wolves with less than 200 dom and gives them a certain amount, starting with 190 and going down by 5, 10 or 20, depending on how many wolves you have
 Your Princess
03:53:05 Princess, Reese
Noo the pups wanderd off in a litter I was looking toward to
 Caeruleum
03:52:42 Cae, Blue
desire, as the name suggests, it staggers your wolves' dominance :P
 Caeruleum
03:52:19 Cae, Blue
the screen goes black but you can still tap on everything :')
 Wolf Pride
03:51:57 Wolf
It says he has vitiligo but he doesn't XD
-WP Click-
 Desire of The Hills
03:51:49 Hills / Desire
What will the stagger wolf dominance at the bottom of my page do??
 kycantina
03:51:17 ky, mourning kelsier
Caeee
 Salem
03:51:16 Salem but pink
Is there a way to tell who's online from who's offline in your friends list? I can't tell lmao, both greens look the exact same ^^"
 The Reaper
03:50:47 Reaper / Grim
Trials
Exactly XD

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 Boeing
04:03:49 Boe is a bear, Rawr!
Cae
holdup- chat works? I've never actually tried chat actually, huh that's news
I submitted a bug report and Eve said it's something to do with the server not liking my IP but I don't know much more than that
A makeshift solution I've found to bypass it is using a vpn but then it's not the greatest and temporary at best
 SammytheRaccoon
04:02:39 Sam/Samuel/Racc
back on that comms grind
 SammytheRaccoon
04:02:26 Sam/Samuel/Racc
my wrist feels better
 Caeruleum
04:01:10 Cae, Blue
boe, yep! chat works just fine, but God forbid i try opening new page or reloading the current one :') then its just "tab not responding" over and over for a couple of minutes
 The Reaper
03:59:34 Reaper / Grim
I sat here wondering what I did that pissed my wolves off (pack happiness) before realizing they were just hangry XD
 Boeing
03:59:16 Boe is a bear, Rawr!
Cae
Oh wait you're getting something similar? o.o
Is it something like where WP just randomly freezes for a couple of minutes and flat-out refuses to load anything for no reason?
 Caeruleum
03:57:43 Cae, Blue
yeahhh :D

boe, oh, that rarely shows up for me <.<
 Desire of The Hills
03:55:39 Hills / Desire
Ohh my pack happiness just increased almost double lol
 Caeruleum
03:55:36 Cae, Blue
no problem ^^ its a feature i quite frankly cannot live without, now that its a thing lol
 Boeing
03:55:04 Boe is a bear, Rawr!
Cae, Cat
It's fine lol
That's definitely wierd, no that's different to what I've been getting for weeks
I'm getting this
-Click-
 Desire of The Hills
03:54:21 Hills / Desire
@Cea

Oh alright, thank you!!
 Caeruleum
03:53:34 Cae, Blue
as in, it takes all your wolves with less than 200 dom and gives them a certain amount, starting with 190 and going down by 5, 10 or 20, depending on how many wolves you have
 Your Princess
03:53:05 Princess, Reese
Noo the pups wanderd off in a litter I was looking toward to
 Caeruleum
03:52:42 Cae, Blue
desire, as the name suggests, it staggers your wolves' dominance :P
 Caeruleum
03:52:19 Cae, Blue
the screen goes black but you can still tap on everything :')
 Wolf Pride
03:51:57 Wolf
It says he has vitiligo but he doesn't XD
-WP Click-
 Desire of The Hills
03:51:49 Hills / Desire
What will the stagger wolf dominance at the bottom of my page do??
 kycantina
03:51:17 ky, mourning kelsier
Caeee
 Salem
03:51:16 Salem but pink
Is there a way to tell who's online from who's offline in your friends list? I can't tell lmao, both greens look the exact same ^^"
 The Reaper
03:50:47 Reaper / Grim
Trials
Exactly XD




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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