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 Cybertronion
08:46:47 Cyber / Onion
Graves

Stay strong, you got this, however things blow over <3
 Chat
08:45:18 
Graves
If this blows over and it all works out just focus on doing the work and enjoying the people you help. Sadly when working with others 90% of the time you can't please all of them. But as long as you're a strong worker and always try your best to follow rules there isn't much they can do no matter how much they don't like you to just fire you when it comes to the higher ups seeing how good of a worker you are for them.
If worst case scenario happens and you lose this job, don't panic. Try to stay as calm as possible and keep a level head as you look for another. If you lose the job no matter how much you love it. There's a reason that in the long run is probably good for you. Either you'll find something better and not have coworkers trying to get you in trouble. Or so many things.
 Cybertronion
08:44:20 Cyber / Onion
Graves

Wishing you all the best, I don't suppose there's any trackable written evidence you can compile for a just in case scenario?

It's awful to get blamed for something someone else did.


Even if things go poorly, remember that you know the truth of your perspective. Sometimes people jsut... are arses. I have blood family who literally tried to destroy my personal life just because they decided they Didn't Like Me-- it wasn't anything i actually did wrong.

It's highhly possible, you simply did nothing wrong.
 Mythology
08:44:04 
Hi chat
 BuggyOs
08:43:39 Lurantis
Graves
I know you might not have the money for it, but you could possibly get a lawyer involved? You had the right to know and they denied you that right. It would be especially helpful of you had a text or email where they stated that they wouldn't provide you the necessary info you requested :(
 LeafClan
08:42:45 Leaf She/Her
Graves I am hopeing all goes well for you!
 Night Shade
08:42:08 Graves | Chaos
Buggy
It is, I didn't know my rights for it at the time and later found out I'm legally allowed to know why I'm being suspended and an ETA for how long, but I got none of that. I'm hoping the "talk" today doesn't end in termination, I'd be so screwed
 BuggyOs
08:40:47 Lurantis
Graves
it's messed up that you can't ask questions and they wont tell you what's going on. Hopefully you find out more today
 Night Shade
08:39:35 Graves | Chaos
Chat
Maybe? I just don't know. They tried to write me up for something somebody else had said and the supervisor is someone my mom used to work with. I don't know why I'm being targeted... I do a good job, the elders love me, and my coworkers seem to like me... I don't know what I'm doing wrong that I'm all of a sudden dealing with writeups and suspension
 Chat
08:38:43 
Good morning leaf!
 LeafClan
08:38:24 Leaf She/Her
Good morning chat!
 VioletEcho
08:38:08 Is a dinosaur rawr
Shade aww noo :/ I got all my fingers crossed for you
 Night Shade
08:37:37 Graves | Chaos
Garf
It's so hard to find a job in my area and I thought I finally found one that I can keep. :( I work the elderly and I love it so much
 BuggyOs
08:37:14 Lurantis
Graves
aww I hope things work out fine :(
 Chat
08:36:39 
Graves
Well maybe it was a follow up thing from the other situation, it's normal to be scared but until it is the worst case scenario try not to stress about it. Maybe today in the talk you'll find out what happened and it just be a warning or something.
 garfield enjoyer
08:36:26 garf
Graves
I'm so sorry you're in that position. Hoping for the best possible outcome, whatever that may be. Fingers crossed for you.
 Night Shade
08:36:21 Graves | Chaos
Aw man did I kill chat?
 Night Shade
08:33:48 Graves | Chaos
Buggy, Chat (XD)
I worked there just fine for almost 6 months then all of a sudden I got writeups from a supervisor that later got suspended and terminated. A week ago I woke up to a call from the other supervisor stating that I was being suspended and did not give me a reason why and told me I'm not to ask questions. I'm supposed to go in and talk to her today and I'm prepared for the worst but I'm still scared, it'll screw up everything for me
 Cybertronion
08:32:31 Cyber / Onion
Sorry to hear that Graves D:

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08:31:06 
Graves
It'll be alright no matter what happens. Why you think that might happen?

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 Cybertronion
08:46:47 Cyber / Onion
Graves

Stay strong, you got this, however things blow over <3
 Chat
08:45:18 
Graves
If this blows over and it all works out just focus on doing the work and enjoying the people you help. Sadly when working with others 90% of the time you can't please all of them. But as long as you're a strong worker and always try your best to follow rules there isn't much they can do no matter how much they don't like you to just fire you when it comes to the higher ups seeing how good of a worker you are for them.
If worst case scenario happens and you lose this job, don't panic. Try to stay as calm as possible and keep a level head as you look for another. If you lose the job no matter how much you love it. There's a reason that in the long run is probably good for you. Either you'll find something better and not have coworkers trying to get you in trouble. Or so many things.
 Cybertronion
08:44:20 Cyber / Onion
Graves

Wishing you all the best, I don't suppose there's any trackable written evidence you can compile for a just in case scenario?

It's awful to get blamed for something someone else did.


Even if things go poorly, remember that you know the truth of your perspective. Sometimes people jsut... are arses. I have blood family who literally tried to destroy my personal life just because they decided they Didn't Like Me-- it wasn't anything i actually did wrong.

It's highhly possible, you simply did nothing wrong.
 Mythology
08:44:04 
Hi chat
 BuggyOs
08:43:39 Lurantis
Graves
I know you might not have the money for it, but you could possibly get a lawyer involved? You had the right to know and they denied you that right. It would be especially helpful of you had a text or email where they stated that they wouldn't provide you the necessary info you requested :(
 LeafClan
08:42:45 Leaf She/Her
Graves I am hopeing all goes well for you!
 Night Shade
08:42:08 Graves | Chaos
Buggy
It is, I didn't know my rights for it at the time and later found out I'm legally allowed to know why I'm being suspended and an ETA for how long, but I got none of that. I'm hoping the "talk" today doesn't end in termination, I'd be so screwed
 BuggyOs
08:40:47 Lurantis
Graves
it's messed up that you can't ask questions and they wont tell you what's going on. Hopefully you find out more today
 Night Shade
08:39:35 Graves | Chaos
Chat
Maybe? I just don't know. They tried to write me up for something somebody else had said and the supervisor is someone my mom used to work with. I don't know why I'm being targeted... I do a good job, the elders love me, and my coworkers seem to like me... I don't know what I'm doing wrong that I'm all of a sudden dealing with writeups and suspension
 Chat
08:38:43 
Good morning leaf!
 LeafClan
08:38:24 Leaf She/Her
Good morning chat!
 VioletEcho
08:38:08 Is a dinosaur rawr
Shade aww noo :/ I got all my fingers crossed for you
 Night Shade
08:37:37 Graves | Chaos
Garf
It's so hard to find a job in my area and I thought I finally found one that I can keep. :( I work the elderly and I love it so much
 BuggyOs
08:37:14 Lurantis
Graves
aww I hope things work out fine :(
 Chat
08:36:39 
Graves
Well maybe it was a follow up thing from the other situation, it's normal to be scared but until it is the worst case scenario try not to stress about it. Maybe today in the talk you'll find out what happened and it just be a warning or something.
 garfield enjoyer
08:36:26 garf
Graves
I'm so sorry you're in that position. Hoping for the best possible outcome, whatever that may be. Fingers crossed for you.
 Night Shade
08:36:21 Graves | Chaos
Aw man did I kill chat?
 Night Shade
08:33:48 Graves | Chaos
Buggy, Chat (XD)
I worked there just fine for almost 6 months then all of a sudden I got writeups from a supervisor that later got suspended and terminated. A week ago I woke up to a call from the other supervisor stating that I was being suspended and did not give me a reason why and told me I'm not to ask questions. I'm supposed to go in and talk to her today and I'm prepared for the worst but I'm still scared, it'll screw up everything for me
 Cybertronion
08:32:31 Cyber / Onion
Sorry to hear that Graves D:

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08:31:06 
Graves
It'll be alright no matter what happens. Why you think that might happen?




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Tracing and Heavy ReferencingDecember 16, 2017 01:20 PM


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Didn't think we actually needed a topic for this, but...

Taking an image and drawing over it is not allowed on Wolfplay. And claiming it as your own art will put you in hot water. Tracing over images in books/magazines/comics etc is also not allowed. If you are found to be doing this, your image will be removed. If you continue, your ability to upload avatars or use the forums will be disabled. Further offenses may result in a permanent ban.

The same goes for heavy referencing. You should only be referencing the pose and adapting it to your own style. Angles, sizes, and proportions do not need to be exactly the same as a photograph for the art to be of decent quality.

Please feel free to ask if you have any questions.

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Edited at December 16, 2022 11:12 PM by Vennenum
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingDecember 16, 2017 01:24 PM


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Thanks for telling me this I didn't know a few things you said until now =3
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingJanuary 4, 2018 06:21 PM


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Hello,
I don't really have an art-style, and i try to make all my art realistic. So when i find a reference (usely real wolf) and i want to make the pose, but not the coat the Same, but it will realistic. Does it still count as heavy referencing?
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingJanuary 30, 2018 08:55 AM


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The Wolfcry said:
Hello,
I don't really have an art-style, and i try to make all my art realistic. So when i find a reference (usely real wolf) and i want to make the pose, but not the coat the Same, but it will realistic. Does it still count as heavy referencing?



Everyone will have their own style. You can use it as a reference to draw, but nothing more. If the outcome looks very similar to the actual art, then it's not allowed. You should also so make sure you're using a stock image for a reference.
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingFebruary 23, 2018 11:54 PM


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If you get permission from the artist, and/or the image is stock and you credit them is it okay? Or is it just no referencing period? I don't really have a problem with this, but I did want to clear it up.
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingFebruary 24, 2018 12:40 AM


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Soaring said:
If you get permission from the artist, and/or the image is stock and you credit them is it okay? Or is it just no referencing period? I don't really have a problem with this, but I did want to clear it up.



Free stock is okay to reference closely as long as the owner says referencing is allowed and you credit the reference.

It doesn't have to be a stock reference if you are only loosely referencing, like seeing what an ear looks like at a certain angle or something.
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingFebruary 24, 2018 12:47 AM


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Deer said:


Soaring said:
If you get permission from the artist, and/or the image is stock and you credit them is it okay? Or is it just no referencing period? I don't really have a problem with this, but I did want to clear it up.



Free stock is okay to reference closely as long as the owner says referencing is allowed and you credit the reference.

It doesn't have to be a stock reference if you are only loosely referencing, like seeing what an ear looks like at a certain angle or something.


Awesome, thank you.
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingMarch 15, 2018 06:43 PM


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I have been using bases on another site but haven't been able to get it on wp. I would give credit for the maker of the base.
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingJuly 8, 2018 03:05 PM


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I'm very curious about heavy references >.>

If you actually have an application where you are able to put the model in your desired pose, can you still draw that pose? Of course, it will still have slight changes, such as designs, facial features, eyes, etc... (This may sound quite dumb but I need to know e.e)))
Tracing and Heavy ReferencingJuly 8, 2018 03:08 PM


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Poses are generally okay. You can't call someone out for heavy referencing a howling wolf image just because their wolf is howling. If that makes any sense?
With more complicated poses however, you will need to be careful when referencing.




BlankStormz said:
I'm very curious about heavy references >.>

If you actually have an application where you are able to put the model in your desired pose, can you still draw that pose? Of course, it will still have slight changes, such as designs, facial features, eyes, etc... (This may sound quite dumb but I need to know e.e)))




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