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 Reprobate
07:58:05 🤓
When I told my mother about how my workplace is like, she told me it sounds *exactly* how the factories used to be in the Soviet era (having had experienced that personally)
 Hecate
07:57:56 Hecc
Rep, love feeling the remnants of oppression on todays society where I live, truly the experience of all time :')
 Caeruleum
07:57:27 Cae, Blue
bro i had stomach flu thingy, already skinny but lost additional 4kg in 3 days, i literally could not stand up on my own, and he pestered me if i can come in to work? like my guy? your work requires standing AND walking, and i cannot do either of those things?? i will call you as soon as im /able/ to work a shift. he ended up closing "for a while" because no one was available to work lol
 Hecate
07:56:53 Hecc
Cae, them taking days off cause they can't be bothered to try and find new staff is the most devious thing ever. Literally do it yourself then, it's not like you have anything better to do i'm sure. xD
 Reprobate
07:56:32 🤓
Hecc
I feel like it's also a sort of social pressure, but definitely largely those things as well. Turns out this mentality of "be grateful you got a job" is especially strong in post-Soviet countries, who would have thought huh 😭
 Hecate
07:55:17 Hecc
Rep, the term slav is loosely used anyway, don't worry about the technicalities lmao :D
 Reprobate
07:54:55 🤓
Cae
IT'S A COFFEE PLACE?? my god, that sort of rush is the WORST, most stressful thing
Good on you for saying no holy shit. I have had horrible panic attacks in situations like that
Saying it "steeled her" is fucked up, I've never met him but I hate him horribly
 Caeruleum
07:54:44 Cae, Blue
hec, right XD mine tried to get me to work all week and i was like, 2 days off are not up for negotiation, im sorry. i dont mind working the weekend but i do mind not getting my days off ;^; your lack of staff aint my issue, and you could always work yourself?
 Hecate
07:54:37 Hecc
Reprobate
I think it's the lack of experience or ig just ''gratitude'' for being given a job that makes you neglect your well being. Of course you should be nice to your bosses and respect the fact you were given a job but it should never come at the expense of your well being. At least that's what I think lmao. It is hard to find a job like that now unfortunately
 Reprobate
07:53:32 🤓
Learning to say no is SUCH an important life lesson, I'm glad you at least learnt it early on, shitty as the experience was ;;
 Caeruleum
07:53:17 Cae, Blue
rep, youre our honorary slav <3
 Caeruleum
07:52:47 Cae, Blue
rep, but like, when his best worker started, the school nearby had like a festival day so ALL parents and ALL kids and ALL teachers were free to come for a coffee, so she died there alone (a customer with coffee shop experience jumped in to help her) and that steeled her!! made her the best and fastest worker ever!! and he wanted to do that to me too!! :D
 Hecate
07:52:45 Hecc
Cae, it's the ''first real job'' experience you must go through as a rite of passage, made me really picky about jobs but also kinda gave me a backbone and taught me to say no from time to time lmao
 Reprobate
07:52:35 🤓
I may be Eastern European but I am not Slavic, how's that </3
 Reprobate
07:51:58 🤓
Hecate
Wow, the feeling bad for leaving trend is real huh 😭
 Hecate
07:51:55 Hecc
Slav takeover lessgooo
 Hecate
07:51:39 Hecc
Reprobate
Wishing you all the luck with that! Be picky about jobs, you're doing a service to them not them to you :>
 Caeruleum
07:51:02 Cae, Blue
hecc, oh my God that is a nightmare D: exploited at 18, the worst
 Hecate
07:50:59 Hecc
I'm always terrified of classifying which part of Europe because it feels so touchy and god forbid you call yourself something you aren't lmao
 Reprobate
07:50:43 🤓
Cae
I just saw your message
I guess all workplaces around here really just are the same huh, what the fuck 😭

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 Reprobate
07:58:05 🤓
When I told my mother about how my workplace is like, she told me it sounds *exactly* how the factories used to be in the Soviet era (having had experienced that personally)
 Hecate
07:57:56 Hecc
Rep, love feeling the remnants of oppression on todays society where I live, truly the experience of all time :')
 Caeruleum
07:57:27 Cae, Blue
bro i had stomach flu thingy, already skinny but lost additional 4kg in 3 days, i literally could not stand up on my own, and he pestered me if i can come in to work? like my guy? your work requires standing AND walking, and i cannot do either of those things?? i will call you as soon as im /able/ to work a shift. he ended up closing "for a while" because no one was available to work lol
 Hecate
07:56:53 Hecc
Cae, them taking days off cause they can't be bothered to try and find new staff is the most devious thing ever. Literally do it yourself then, it's not like you have anything better to do i'm sure. xD
 Reprobate
07:56:32 🤓
Hecc
I feel like it's also a sort of social pressure, but definitely largely those things as well. Turns out this mentality of "be grateful you got a job" is especially strong in post-Soviet countries, who would have thought huh 😭
 Hecate
07:55:17 Hecc
Rep, the term slav is loosely used anyway, don't worry about the technicalities lmao :D
 Reprobate
07:54:55 🤓
Cae
IT'S A COFFEE PLACE?? my god, that sort of rush is the WORST, most stressful thing
Good on you for saying no holy shit. I have had horrible panic attacks in situations like that
Saying it "steeled her" is fucked up, I've never met him but I hate him horribly
 Caeruleum
07:54:44 Cae, Blue
hec, right XD mine tried to get me to work all week and i was like, 2 days off are not up for negotiation, im sorry. i dont mind working the weekend but i do mind not getting my days off ;^; your lack of staff aint my issue, and you could always work yourself?
 Hecate
07:54:37 Hecc
Reprobate
I think it's the lack of experience or ig just ''gratitude'' for being given a job that makes you neglect your well being. Of course you should be nice to your bosses and respect the fact you were given a job but it should never come at the expense of your well being. At least that's what I think lmao. It is hard to find a job like that now unfortunately
 Reprobate
07:53:32 🤓
Learning to say no is SUCH an important life lesson, I'm glad you at least learnt it early on, shitty as the experience was ;;
 Caeruleum
07:53:17 Cae, Blue
rep, youre our honorary slav <3
 Caeruleum
07:52:47 Cae, Blue
rep, but like, when his best worker started, the school nearby had like a festival day so ALL parents and ALL kids and ALL teachers were free to come for a coffee, so she died there alone (a customer with coffee shop experience jumped in to help her) and that steeled her!! made her the best and fastest worker ever!! and he wanted to do that to me too!! :D
 Hecate
07:52:45 Hecc
Cae, it's the ''first real job'' experience you must go through as a rite of passage, made me really picky about jobs but also kinda gave me a backbone and taught me to say no from time to time lmao
 Reprobate
07:52:35 🤓
I may be Eastern European but I am not Slavic, how's that </3
 Reprobate
07:51:58 🤓
Hecate
Wow, the feeling bad for leaving trend is real huh 😭
 Hecate
07:51:55 Hecc
Slav takeover lessgooo
 Hecate
07:51:39 Hecc
Reprobate
Wishing you all the luck with that! Be picky about jobs, you're doing a service to them not them to you :>
 Caeruleum
07:51:02 Cae, Blue
hecc, oh my God that is a nightmare D: exploited at 18, the worst
 Hecate
07:50:59 Hecc
I'm always terrified of classifying which part of Europe because it feels so touchy and god forbid you call yourself something you aren't lmao
 Reprobate
07:50:43 🤓
Cae
I just saw your message
I guess all workplaces around here really just are the same huh, what the fuck 😭




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Art advice pileMarch 10, 2020 03:11 AM


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so- uh- i suck at drawing and i haven't seen any actual forums for stockpiling advice for art so go nuts
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R E F E R E N C E ! !
whenever you're drawing anything, pull up a picture to make sure your proportions are correct. even if it's not in the same position you'll still be able to see relative heights and lengths
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I second referencing. It is an incredibely useful tool that you should absolutely take advantge of when learning.

I would also recommend viewing the skeleton of what you are trying to draw and learning how to simplify it down into shapes/lines for drawing. This will teach you to build a skeleton, then add the mass to it.

Start off with shapes! This helps me a lot. Use circles, squares, triangles, etc when building up the mass of what you are drawing. Learn the shapes of what you are drawing.

How I learned was to first trace over a photo of what I'm learning to draw, and note their basic shapes and simplified skeleton. Then, directly reference that and sketch it a few times. After that, practice drawing without directly looking at the reference; try to come up with your own poses or copy new poses. Don't post any of these unless you have permission to do so (except the tracing; I would not post traces), and always give credit to your references when you do post them.

These are just things I've learned while drawing. I'm by no means a professional, but I do hope these help you.


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