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 Feiella
03:35:11 Fei The Sleepy Ghost
Poll. Vote please
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 Salem
02:50:59 Salem but pink
Support?
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 Rainbow River
02:31:37 River, they/them
anyone want to pvp?
 Feiella
02:13:33 Fei The Sleepy Ghost
at least they didn't turn out too bad
 ZefhyrMaracaibo
02:09:33 
peace and love
 EkaterinaGoldstone
02:04:47 Kate/Gold
I'm off to bed, it's midnight for me. Goodnight y'all. :)
 FIAB
02:04:28 
Going offline for a few, active often though
 EkaterinaGoldstone
02:03:45 Kate/Gold
Fiab- Yep! Obedient is best, then Agreeable, Stubborn, Rebellious being worst.
 FIAB
02:03:17 
@kate wait, that's a thing now?
 Pink Tears
02:02:56 Tears, Pink, Pinkie
Fiab

Yeah, dosent help that it was the sound of my door opening followed by a dark humanoid figure walking by my bed clear as day, my room is dark but still bright enough for me to see the outlines of things plus I can see if my door opens and it did not, it seriously also dosent help that due to medication I've gone mostly deaf in one ear and that is the ear that happens to be facing the door
 EkaterinaGoldstone
02:02:42 Kate/Gold
Fiab- Yes it is :) Also yeah. And if you have the mush to do so, check your wolves' dispositions too, that tells you if they will behave in fights or refuse to listen.
 FIAB
02:01:11 
@kate(that is the nickname line still right?) I kinda remembered a weather system, but that's more robust now, thanks for the tip!
 FIAB
01:59:38 
@pink, I know that isn't fun... The mind can create some scary/unnerving things...
 EkaterinaGoldstone
01:58:26 Kate/Gold
Fiab- Ah fair. Though I'd recommend paying attention to the weather vitals, if you plan to explore a lot. Each time a wolf encounters harsh weather they'll give you +5 moves if they're a positive number for that weather.
 Pink Tears
01:57:49 Tears, Pink, Pinkie
I just know tomorrow at school is gonna be super amazing because is midnight and I just started hallucinating (yes, this is normal, said hallucination was just a lot more realistic than usual)
 Continental Wolves
01:57:47 Emmet , Spoopy Wolf
Fiab
Ehh I still have plenty more I still need to breed so the list will grow but I'm tired e,e
 FIAB
01:56:32 
@continental
Jeez! Lol, that must look nuts on the report page 😂
 FIAB
01:54:58 
Ahhhh yh was trying to pick up a few starters early.
 Continental Wolves
01:53:25 Emmet , Spoopy Wolf
24 pregnant females, that's enough for tonight
 EkaterinaGoldstone
01:53:07 Kate/Gold
Fiab- Nah, this one
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I hit the import into custom to see what he looked like in the others, and Alpha male is real nice.

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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Hades

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


Hades

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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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