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 Silvers Clan
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Hey guys do u get 1,000 points every day now or only for new players
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Cy
I have no idea, I am definitely not the one to ask. Sorry :/
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01:09:10 Cy, love
What do i do guys?
 Zeraphia
01:08:21 Sickly Vah
But a question for tomorrow. I am going to go to sleep now. :D
 Zeraphia
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Grim

That's a good question. It's honestly up to you!
 Cypress Road
01:03:29 Cy, love
Yall i think im falling for my best friend. I know she's bi but idk if I am or not and I know I've always loved her atleast like a sister and stuff but idk if I'm wanting her to break up with her boyfriend out of jealousy or because he keeps hurting her or both. And myheart aches everytime I find out he hurts her and we used to joke that we are over guys and don't need them and we will get married and adopt kids but now I don't know how I really feel or how she feels but I don't want to ask cause I don't want to ruin our friendship
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Vah
:D Now do I have Ronan be vain or not...
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Grim

Finally finished updating the lore. Now to edit Odetta and Wren a little bit--and Caelus.
 The Reaper
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Vah
Lmao touche

Cat
:O Okay!
 Zeraphia
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Purge

Honestly that works too. XD
 Catori
12:52:31 Cat
Grim

I had this boy born... not the best vitals or ratings but im very excited about him. I am tempting to custom this boy
-WP Click-
 Purgatory
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Vah

Honestly, I may just list them with their breed/coat color as the title since I'm horrible at naming my own characters XD
 Zeraphia
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Grim

Caelus is used to people hating him. I mean, he has to work with Peter on a daily basis so... y'know?
 The Reaper
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Vah
Ronan would probably eventually get along with Vaelus or absolutely hate him. I know Ronan is gonna be a pain in the ass though XD
 Nevermore.
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Naming the pretty ponies is one of my favorite past times. Bonus if it's a dun...
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Hey
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Purge

My favorite thing to do with horses is just give them the wildest registered names and figure out a nickname from there.
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How're you doing?
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I got 4 horses and like six humans to put on toyhouse but I'm way too lazy to name them or come up with lore. :')
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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Hades

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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