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Zane-
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 Eye of Eternity
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bleggg one more drawing to gooo
 Serpents
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anyone up for a rp pm me
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@Kaos I may call you Khps from now on XD
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I now have 3 pregnant females and not a ton of space
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RP anybody? PM me!
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Bruh. Trying to breed my old gals but half of them are in labor >:(
 Kháos
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ohh xD I'm thinking of making a brown palette.
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Well I mean, 4 per wolf, the several avatars, and the squirrel in the game mail
 Kháos
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more than one squirrel? o.O
 Moonfall
08:10:25 Many moons, one me
Kháos
It looks like the squirrels in your den ate some fermented nuts
 Dagger Pack
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Fuck, sorry, I thought I was in sales
 Dagger Pack
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-WP Click-

- G1
- CL
- Infatuation Boost
- Excellent Howler
- Excellent Wrestler
- Agreeable Disposition
- No negative vitals
- 22 Rarity
- 6 Talents
- 139 Weight

Studding for four mush
 Kháos
08:08:12 Kaos || Kháos
Wait, I zoomed out. I can now explore like this LOL
 Lucky Rat
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Big boss
Oh nooo
 Moonfall
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Let me know how it goes! This hurts my brain but I'm too interested
 Lucky Rat
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Big boss
Do it
 Kháos
08:07:36 Kaos || Kháos
no, the battle page is cut off 😭
 Kháos
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I kind of want to see if I can explore like this...




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a squirrela winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

squirrels with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound squirrelbstuff cheeks my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Dstuff cheeksh Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a squirrelwins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my squirrels had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my squirrels had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the squirrels are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evinestce if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the squirrels are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evinestce if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your squirrelmisses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH squirrelwas up against a non-boosted squirrelwith significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a squirrelwith 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE squirrelwith full battle will hit for 23, while a squirrelwith full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the squirrels in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot squirrels who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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