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Moonfall
True love them chocolate milk 😋
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Hey moon any chance you can board?
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Yesterday I bought the cats one of those scratching post house boxes, and since I put it together last night, they haven't stopped playing with it so far
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Sleep
I do, I like it! Perfect for Easter
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Do you not see the name change
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Finally, Margo popped, not sure if I want to keep anyone from this litter or not

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 Moonfall
09:03:48 Many moons, one me
Ok please I beg you stop being content, I just wanna see if I can get a twin from a twins son and a twin
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Hi sleep!
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Hi moon
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Rat Lord
Such a mood. I'll go if I must but now I swear in the name of chocolate milk because that's never let me down. All hail chocolate milk
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:(
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You need to bury your food to prevent other packs/animals from finding it
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08:43:53 Kneecap stealer
Go to lifecenter
 The Rat Lord
08:34:09 Rat/spooky/(he/him)
4ever
We don’t have food, just a lame ass piece of bread and the smallest water cup ever T-T
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Please stop stealing my food because i have only 50 feedings:(
 Pink kitty🐈
08:29:53 Kneecap stealer
Someone yell at me to get out of bed and get ready
 Pink kitty🐈
08:28:32 Kneecap stealer
So did mine, I go just for the food they have
 The Rat Lord
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4ever
I use to but my parents forced me to much so I don’t go anymore
 Pink kitty🐈
08:25:10 Kneecap stealer
Why, if you have beef with church, don't you go too
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Rat

You want me to go just because you have beef with church lmao

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 The Rat Lord
09:29:09 Rat/spooky/(he/him)
Moonfall
True love them chocolate milk 😋
 Pink kitty🐈
09:25:30 Kneecap stealer
Hey moon any chance you can board?
 Moonfall
09:15:51 Many moons, one me
Yesterday I bought the cats one of those scratching post house boxes, and since I put it together last night, they haven't stopped playing with it so far
 Moonfall
09:09:05 Many moons, one me
Sleep
I do, I like it! Perfect for Easter
 Pink kitty🐈
09:06:23 Kneecap stealer
Do you not see the name change
 starrii-featherz
09:05:17 starrii, Lucida, Hex
Finally, Margo popped, not sure if I want to keep anyone from this litter or not

-WP Click-
-WP Click-
-WP Click-
 Moonfall
09:03:48 Many moons, one me
Ok please I beg you stop being content, I just wanna see if I can get a twin from a twins son and a twin
-WP Click-
 Moonfall
09:02:32 Many moons, one me
Hi sleep!
 Pink kitty🐈
09:01:23 Kneecap stealer
Hi moon
 Moonfall
08:55:55 Many moons, one me
Rat Lord
Such a mood. I'll go if I must but now I swear in the name of chocolate milk because that's never let me down. All hail chocolate milk
 PhoenixClan
08:53:22 Phoenix~
:(
 MLadySkylar
08:44:42 P'Sky/Sky-kun
You need to bury your food to prevent other packs/animals from finding it
 Pink kitty🐈
08:43:53 Kneecap stealer
Go to lifecenter
 The Rat Lord
08:34:09 Rat/spooky/(he/him)
4ever
We don’t have food, just a lame ass piece of bread and the smallest water cup ever T-T
 PhoenixClan
08:31:49 Phoenix~
Please stop stealing my food because i have only 50 feedings:(
 Pink kitty🐈
08:29:53 Kneecap stealer
Someone yell at me to get out of bed and get ready
 Pink kitty🐈
08:28:32 Kneecap stealer
So did mine, I go just for the food they have
 The Rat Lord
08:27:22 Rat/spooky/(he/him)
4ever
I use to but my parents forced me to much so I don’t go anymore
 Pink kitty🐈
08:25:10 Kneecap stealer
Why, if you have beef with church, don't you go too
 Pink kitty🐈
08:22:49 Kneecap stealer
Rat

You want me to go just because you have beef with church lmao




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Ecifircas

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


Ecifircas

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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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