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This was the boy single handedly got him on the leaderboard and kept him there
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demon
ooooh good luck out there :'0
nooo that sucks :((
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you can also buy them in barter by going to search and scrolling all the way down, saying that youre looking to buy in sales chat, selling items, or taking art comms ^^
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I checked my Battle teams i have 5 that DS can claim. Im so mad though because it claimed my self brought up stud in Monday
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Hi, new player here, is the only way to earn apples by winning competitions such as the referral thingy?
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demon
damnnn i only have two </3 but i also only have my explore team and the replacements for the two oldies
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Tern
I have like 50 some odd wolves i think that DS can claim
 Eye of Eternity
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me too 😔 i fear ds so much
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Tern
X.X noted I need to lock in on training up my wolves though honestly. Most of mine old as heck
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stockholm syndrome (the song) is so good bro
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"your wolf defect has been sold to pack darkseeker for 50 mushrooms" theres a pack named darkseeker? And the pack is a darkseeker
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 Eye of Eternity
08:47:47 tern | they/he
demon
damnnnn
thats really impressive he had a full life

hey eer :3
im alright, currently in will smith hell
how are you?
 EvergreenHills
08:46:05 Juicy Arm Boy
Heya EyeGuy :3
How are ya?
 Demon Souls
08:41:58 Demon/Soul
Tern
He was number 18 on the leaderboard by death age and all his breedings [131 in his life] were to my girls besides maybe 2-3 when he was briefly sold
 EvergreenHills
08:39:17 Juicy Arm Boy
Hello
 Eye of Eternity
08:36:53 tern | they/he
demon
awww
damnnn 29 times bred is impressive
 Demon Souls
08:34:55 Demon/Soul
Tern
-WP Click-
This was the boy single handedly got him on the leaderboard and kept him there
 DaMeows
08:34:01 
Oh, ok thanks!
 Eye of Eternity
08:33:40 tern | they/he
demon
ooooh good luck out there :'0
nooo that sucks :((
 Eye of Eternity
08:33:15 tern | they/he
dameows
you can also buy them in barter by going to search and scrolling all the way down, saying that youre looking to buy in sales chat, selling items, or taking art comms ^^
 Demon Souls
08:32:28 Demon/Soul
Tern
I checked my Battle teams i have 5 that DS can claim. Im so mad though because it claimed my self brought up stud in Monday
 DaMeows
08:32:08 
Hi, new player here, is the only way to earn apples by winning competitions such as the referral thingy?
 Eye of Eternity
08:30:22 tern | they/he
demon
damnnn i only have two </3 but i also only have my explore team and the replacements for the two oldies
 Moonfall
08:29:16 Many moons, one me
Sleep,
I mean, they are what they say? honesty is a good quality
 Demon Souls
08:29:02 Demon/Soul
I have tell Midnight to magically place in WoW
 Demon Souls
08:28:30 Demon/Soul
Tern
I have like 50 some odd wolves i think that DS can claim
 Eye of Eternity
08:27:16 tern | they/he
demon
me too 😔 i fear ds so much
 Demon Souls
08:26:33 Demon/Soul
Tern
X.X noted I need to lock in on training up my wolves though honestly. Most of mine old as heck
 Eye of Eternity
08:25:42 tern | they/he
stockholm syndrome (the song) is so good bro
 Sleep
08:24:08 Kneecap stealer
"your wolf defect has been sold to pack darkseeker for 50 mushrooms" theres a pack named darkseeker? And the pack is a darkseeker
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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Ecifircas

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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