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 Shadow Frog
04:45:04 Froggy (she/her)
Acorn

I live in the suburbs of a major city. I grew up in the country. On the same side of the bay I’m currently visiting. For three years I lived in this very house with my grandparents. I enjoyed wandering around the fields and the woods. Since I’m living in suburbia, I can’t wander like that anymore.
 Acornclan
04:39:28 Acorn (She/Her)
Froggy
That's awesome :D
Getting out to hear nature and be with family is awesome
Sometimes the critters get a bit annoying but they're better than sirens and other towny noises xD (to me at least)
I live in a semi-rural area, not a town but there's just a lot of people to say it's rural.
 Shadow Frog
04:34:08 Froggy (she/her)
Acorn

I’m at my grandparents house in the countryside, visiting. I live on the other side of the bay. Last week I heard green tree frogs calling. I could hear them through the window and over my tv, they were that loud.
 Acornclan
04:30:37 Acorn (She/Her)
Froggy
They're awesome but then can be a pain lol

Me and my mother were coming home and we drove past a pond. They were so loud. The reeds and trees blcomed the sound in certain spots so we didn't know the first time we heard them since it was very brief, but the second was longer lol.
 Shadow Frog
04:30:23 Froggy (she/her)
P’Sky

Hey
 MLadySkylar
04:27:35 P'Sky/Sky-kun
Heyo
 Shadow Frog
04:25:32 Froggy (she/her)
I heard the spring peepers calling last night. They were rather loud and rowdy.
 Stormsong
04:19:13 Stormy (she/her)
Acorn

Where I grew up, we had a pool.
 Acornclan
04:18:04 Acorn (She/Her)
Frog
Yeah, very glad we opened our pool already before be got more green (its pretty green right now)
 Pink kitty🐈
04:16:39 Kneecap stealer
All I see when I get back is "do trees have genders?"
 Coveted Aberrance
04:16:14 
Caved and got a premium account haha
 Empress Midnight
04:06:14 Frog Empress (she)
Acorn

Today’s not bad at all. Tomorrow and Thursday are supposed to be hot 🥵.
 Acornclan
04:04:30 Acorn (She/Her)
I like that it's not freezing thank you weather
But maybe 10 degrees lower next time, please xD
 Empress Midnight
04:02:57 Frog Empress (she)
The kicker: it’s the middle of April, almost the middle of spring. Thanks Climate Change, you’re a real pal
 Empress Midnight
04:00:51 Frog Empress (she)
Tern

I know right. I’m wearing a short-sleeve t-shirt and shorts
 Ezranian
03:38:53 ezra, he/him
bye!
 Eye of Eternity
03:38:40 tern | they/he
its so hot out oh my god
 Night Raven College
03:37:58 NRC/Night/Raven
Well I'm gonna go bye
 TheFlyingKitten
03:37:51 Petri Dish/Dert
It's just fun to give plants names and dote. :)
 Greed
03:37:25 
with bonsai trees and most other things they are a lot easier to grow with a grow light which is cheap off amazon.

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 Shadow Frog
04:45:04 Froggy (she/her)
Acorn

I live in the suburbs of a major city. I grew up in the country. On the same side of the bay I’m currently visiting. For three years I lived in this very house with my grandparents. I enjoyed wandering around the fields and the woods. Since I’m living in suburbia, I can’t wander like that anymore.
 Acornclan
04:39:28 Acorn (She/Her)
Froggy
That's awesome :D
Getting out to hear nature and be with family is awesome
Sometimes the critters get a bit annoying but they're better than sirens and other towny noises xD (to me at least)
I live in a semi-rural area, not a town but there's just a lot of people to say it's rural.
 Shadow Frog
04:34:08 Froggy (she/her)
Acorn

I’m at my grandparents house in the countryside, visiting. I live on the other side of the bay. Last week I heard green tree frogs calling. I could hear them through the window and over my tv, they were that loud.
 Acornclan
04:30:37 Acorn (She/Her)
Froggy
They're awesome but then can be a pain lol

Me and my mother were coming home and we drove past a pond. They were so loud. The reeds and trees blcomed the sound in certain spots so we didn't know the first time we heard them since it was very brief, but the second was longer lol.
 Shadow Frog
04:30:23 Froggy (she/her)
P’Sky

Hey
 MLadySkylar
04:27:35 P'Sky/Sky-kun
Heyo
 Shadow Frog
04:25:32 Froggy (she/her)
I heard the spring peepers calling last night. They were rather loud and rowdy.
 Stormsong
04:19:13 Stormy (she/her)
Acorn

Where I grew up, we had a pool.
 Acornclan
04:18:04 Acorn (She/Her)
Frog
Yeah, very glad we opened our pool already before be got more green (its pretty green right now)
 Pink kitty🐈
04:16:39 Kneecap stealer
All I see when I get back is "do trees have genders?"
 Coveted Aberrance
04:16:14 
Caved and got a premium account haha
 Empress Midnight
04:06:14 Frog Empress (she)
Acorn

Today’s not bad at all. Tomorrow and Thursday are supposed to be hot 🥵.
 Acornclan
04:04:30 Acorn (She/Her)
I like that it's not freezing thank you weather
But maybe 10 degrees lower next time, please xD
 Empress Midnight
04:02:57 Frog Empress (she)
The kicker: it’s the middle of April, almost the middle of spring. Thanks Climate Change, you’re a real pal
 Empress Midnight
04:00:51 Frog Empress (she)
Tern

I know right. I’m wearing a short-sleeve t-shirt and shorts
 Ezranian
03:38:53 ezra, he/him
bye!
 Eye of Eternity
03:38:40 tern | they/he
its so hot out oh my god
 Night Raven College
03:37:58 NRC/Night/Raven
Well I'm gonna go bye
 TheFlyingKitten
03:37:51 Petri Dish/Dert
It's just fun to give plants names and dote. :)
 Greed
03:37:25 
with bonsai trees and most other things they are a lot easier to grow with a grow light which is cheap off amazon.




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Ecifircas

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


Ecifircas

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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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