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The squirrel changes :00
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Vortex!! ^^
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Gah this made me laugh...
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My wolves no longer eat. They stuff their cheeks as squirrels now. xD
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@khoas nightmares are no fun :) well youre awake now looking at youre squirellslslsl
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I hate waking up because of horrible nightmares. But logging in and seeing "I like big nuts... and I cannot lie" with a squirrel meme as my avatar makes me feel better 🤣
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LOL skwirrel power
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ok--send me a mail so i can see? ;)
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Ahhhaaaa omg I just seen what my avatar changed to I am! dying!
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I actually love that game mail squirrel >.>
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Please do!
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Or maybe Barter.
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Heck yeah :D
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I'm going to add it to the Event shop.

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 Xanthia
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The squirrel changes :00
 Xanthia
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Vortex!! ^^
 Silent Moon
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Gah this made me laugh...
-WP Click-
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Good morning Ultra!
 Xanthia
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Morning
 Kháos
02:49:51 Kaos || Kháos
My wolves no longer eat. They stuff their cheeks as squirrels now. xD
 A bonsaitreasure
02:47:32 
@khoas nightmares are no fun :) well youre awake now looking at youre squirellslslsl
 Kháos
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I hate waking up because of horrible nightmares. But logging in and seeing "I like big nuts... and I cannot lie" with a squirrel meme as my avatar makes me feel better 🤣
 ZefhyrMaracaibo
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LOL skwirrel power
 ZefhyrMaracaibo
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ok--send me a mail so i can see? ;)
 Mochi
02:40:58 Rainy
Ahhhaaaa omg I just seen what my avatar changed to I am! dying!
 Winterfell
02:29:30 Winter
I actually love that game mail squirrel >.>
 Sowelu
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Squirrel
 Moon's Howl
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Is it just me who has the HEE banner image on the bottom broken?
 Moonfall
01:12:27 Many moons, one me
I think I'll go to bed now because a, I'm super sleepy, and b I feel like I'm dominating chat with my lengthy posts and frequent replies, which is probably a sign I've been online way too much today. Good night everyone!
 St. Cloverbeast
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Collahhh
 Night Shade
01:08:29 Graves | Chaos
Please do!
 SixBears
01:06:20 evebot
Or maybe Barter.
 Cybertronion
01:04:57 Cyber / Onion
Heck yeah :D
 SixBears
01:04:37 evebot
I'm going to add it to the Event shop.




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a squirrela winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

squirrels with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound squirrelbstuff cheeks my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Dstuff cheeksh Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a squirrelwins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my squirrels had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my squirrels had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the squirrels are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evinestce if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the squirrels are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evinestce if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your squirrelmisses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH squirrelwas up against a non-boosted squirrelwith significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a squirrelwith 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE squirrelwith full battle will hit for 23, while a squirrelwith full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the squirrels in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot squirrels who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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