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Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:08 PM


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Nope
He's with the Asters
Who
Aren't actually in his timeline at all usually
Brayton and Sofiel Aster, they have a homestead :D
But, of course, there's also Max O'Rielly, who's basically an uncle. Mhm.
I got so much lore already showing up haha
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:11 PM


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Oooo, I love that!
Yippee for Max O'Rielly! :D
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I'm debating my characters timeline's at the moment, lol

Edited at September 30, 2024 03:12 PM by Lost Memories
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:12 PM


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Yes, yes, the lore shall be great
In this one, Max arrested Garvin when he was 16 and the Asters fostered/adopted by the time Garvin was 17. So. Yeah. Yay.
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Also- I see that you switched from OSDD-1 for Briar to DID, did you end up falling into the rabbit hole I did with Garvin? XD

Edited at September 30, 2024 03:13 PM by Overthink101
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:13 PM


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Yeahhhh, a little-
I'm still kinda switching back and forth, so I may change it back, I really can't decide, all I know is I've made more alters because they make sense, ahhhh ;-;
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:15 PM


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Oooo? More alters?
Also, a good way to figure it out is structure.
How is the system structured? How thin/thick are the amnesiac/dissociative barriers?
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:22 PM


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Yep, I'll introduce them to you in a bit :D
Yeahh, I've been working on that, it's just taking me a bit to figure out ;-;
I do know that the dissociative barriers are very thick with the exception of Bee and co-fronting alters a lot of the time (Rye and Briar, most obviously in T8P)-
But, like-
I'm still iffy because even with more alters and high amnesia I'm not quite sure they meet all the criteria for DID over OSDD-1, lol

Edited at September 30, 2024 03:23 PM by Lost Memories
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:25 PM


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Fun!
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That makes sense, okay
So
Structure was more of the OSDD-1b
For OSDD-1a
It's more about how distinct the alters are, if they're more or less the host at different ages or entirely different people with totally different appearances and whatnot
So basically...
If the system has any non-human alters, then it's most likely DID and not OSDD-1
If there aren't non-human alters then it gets more tricky but uh... Yeah. For now we'll stick to this. I'll continue after if need be lol

Edited at September 30, 2024 03:26 PM by Overthink101
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:35 PM


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Hmm, yeah, that makes sense
Kinda also why I'm having some trouble though, lmao
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So, as you've already seen, a lot of Briar's "past" alters (ones that I was already sure of previously) were set up to more fall into the OSDD-1 (specifically OSDD-1b) catagory where they kind of fit into a certain period to cope with something traumatic, and, rather than being different people, they were more-so like the same person in different stages of growing up and acting out in certain enviroments, BUT
Some of the newer (recently created, there's one that was formed a little earlier in Briar's life) alters are not like that at all, including one non-human alter.
Technically Sall is also based off a different person rather than being "Briar" but in a different stage of life
This being why I switched it to DID rather than OSDD, but I'm still uncertain because of the mix, though I'm also pretty sure I've seen some stuff about people with DID experiencing something similar, I'm just scared of getting it wrong, haha

Edited at September 30, 2024 03:40 PM by Lost Memories
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 03:43 PM


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That sounds like DID to me, yeah
Sounds kind of like Epochs, even
Epochs can have lower barriers within them but thick ones with other Epochs.
Actually- I first expected OSDD-1 for Garvin because of similar reasonings
And then I went down the rabbit hole and found out that Polyfragmented DID often seems like OSDD-1 at first because of... Epochs! And Sidesystems, Subsystems, and just... Sisasystems in general.
Whispers Cost | DiscussionSeptember 30, 2024 04:07 PM


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Okay, welp, time to go down the rabbit hole then XD
Thanks for your help figuring it out though! Lol

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