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I used to type out ads for Sales and PM them to myself so I didn't have to rewrite them lol
 The Tea Drinkers
07:44:54 Tea, Tea Queen
bleh
 Kháos
07:44:03 
Did you know that you can send PMs to yourself? o.o
 Sabbath
07:43:23 Rook
omg just found a link to xenotime saved in my PMs from 2016 im feeling so old
 Eternitys Gaze
07:42:05 tern / gaze
sobbing why are my wolves so useless im getting slaughtered in explore-
 Serpents
07:40:43 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
still debatin if I want join the card event dont even know if it started frankly this one gets odder then the winter as all the crazys can hide behind anominity for a week
 Kháos
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Even better when you're trying to figure out who it was and keep going back and forth through the mail and forget which one was you speaking and which was them - crying
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07:40:09 Reaper / Grim
I have a rp saved from back when I first joined (2018 era)
 Kháos
07:39:44 
I have screenshots too, possibly Chat Posts worthy but I haven't gone through my photos in forever. I have 25,000 photos. When I hit 30,000, maybe I'll go through them. :,D
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07:39:28 ET
Kháos
Nooo having mail from former packs is so fun LMAO. I love having stuff saved from years and years ago
 Serpents
07:39:12 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
anyone up for an rp pm me
 Kháos
07:38:56 
Goblin-
I forgot she's not your puppy. She's so cute.
 Mirko
07:38:26 Mir
Malpha
I have so many screen shots not on that thread that make me laugh every time I go through them
 Kháos
07:38:11 
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I still need to go through and delete some of my old mail. </3 I still have some mail from former packs and people I no longer speak to. ;-;
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07:37:26 Malpha/Mal/Algo
I'm so sentimental omg T.T
 Malpha
07:37:12 Malpha/Mal/Algo
Mirko,
I don't think the night chat I was apart of put any screenshots on there but he had some wild times. I do know one of my old friends still has a list of routes from when I used ti be around and I show up so many times. I'm glad I can still see that. It's nice
 Eternity
07:36:33 ET
Oh, my mail box was lagging due to the absurd amount of notifications in it, I see.
 Eternitys Gaze
07:36:11 tern / gaze
khaos
yeah i found that guy too
 Kháos
07:34:51 
I just found a screaming beaver in explore-
 Mirko
07:33:12 Mir
Malpha
i was so happy going through that thread. Saw a ton of screenshots I actually experienced lol.

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 Sabbath
07:45:13 Rook
I used to type out ads for Sales and PM them to myself so I didn't have to rewrite them lol
 The Tea Drinkers
07:44:54 Tea, Tea Queen
bleh
 Kháos
07:44:03 
Did you know that you can send PMs to yourself? o.o
 Sabbath
07:43:23 Rook
omg just found a link to xenotime saved in my PMs from 2016 im feeling so old
 Eternitys Gaze
07:42:05 tern / gaze
sobbing why are my wolves so useless im getting slaughtered in explore-
 Serpents
07:40:43 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
still debatin if I want join the card event dont even know if it started frankly this one gets odder then the winter as all the crazys can hide behind anominity for a week
 Kháos
07:40:32 
ET-
Even better when you're trying to figure out who it was and keep going back and forth through the mail and forget which one was you speaking and which was them - crying
 The Reaper
07:40:09 Reaper / Grim
I have a rp saved from back when I first joined (2018 era)
 Kháos
07:39:44 
I have screenshots too, possibly Chat Posts worthy but I haven't gone through my photos in forever. I have 25,000 photos. When I hit 30,000, maybe I'll go through them. :,D
 Eternity
07:39:28 ET
Kháos
Nooo having mail from former packs is so fun LMAO. I love having stuff saved from years and years ago
 Serpents
07:39:12 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
anyone up for an rp pm me
 Kháos
07:38:56 
Goblin-
I forgot she's not your puppy. She's so cute.
 Mirko
07:38:26 Mir
Malpha
I have so many screen shots not on that thread that make me laugh every time I go through them
 Kháos
07:38:11 
ET-
I still need to go through and delete some of my old mail. </3 I still have some mail from former packs and people I no longer speak to. ;-;
 Malpha
07:37:26 Malpha/Mal/Algo
I'm so sentimental omg T.T
 Malpha
07:37:12 Malpha/Mal/Algo
Mirko,
I don't think the night chat I was apart of put any screenshots on there but he had some wild times. I do know one of my old friends still has a list of routes from when I used ti be around and I show up so many times. I'm glad I can still see that. It's nice
 Eternity
07:36:33 ET
Oh, my mail box was lagging due to the absurd amount of notifications in it, I see.
 Eternitys Gaze
07:36:11 tern / gaze
khaos
yeah i found that guy too
 Kháos
07:34:51 
I just found a screaming beaver in explore-
 Mirko
07:33:12 Mir
Malpha
i was so happy going through that thread. Saw a ton of screenshots I actually experienced lol.




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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