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 Moonfall
09:19:32 Many moons, one me
Spent 860 mush on explore moves and I'm now back up to 860 mush with a mere 490 moves left :)
I love spring
 Moonfall
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How is a majority of my team excellent at howling, yet are constantly terrible at howling in the druids circle?
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Moon,
Yup >:)
 Moonfall
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Hehehe chaos kitty 😁
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Crap, now I have the urge to come up with an OC based off the word Schadenfreude.
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Moon,
Here ye go >:)
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ezra

Lol, thank you.
 Ezranian
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petri-
it's a good critter, very expressive! i'm just busy failing to do homework lol
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Damn it, Critter killed Chat. >:c
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Ugh, my Critter. I don't think I've come across many OCs with Schadenfreude as a ruling character trait. ~w~
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Moon,
Thank you again!
the more I draw the better I get lol
 Moonfall
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Wild
Looks fluffy!
 Akira Fire
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Moonfall
Yes its laggy for me
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Doodle number I don't even know of today!
 Moonfall
08:13:35 Many moons, one me
Is explore a bit laggy for anyone else or is it just me and my sucky wifi?
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anyone up for a rp pm me please me im bored
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Akira,
Maybe Eve pitied them and let them win. :)
 Akira Fire
08:05:18 AW
damn. Eve and bigfoot in the same level. My luck is turning around
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An cat knocking over a Christmas tree? Or plotting to?

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 Moonfall
09:19:32 Many moons, one me
Spent 860 mush on explore moves and I'm now back up to 860 mush with a mere 490 moves left :)
I love spring
 Moonfall
09:11:45 Many moons, one me
How is a majority of my team excellent at howling, yet are constantly terrible at howling in the druids circle?
 Wild Runners
08:54:34 Stalking chat
Moon,
Yup >:)
 Moonfall
08:45:07 Many moons, one me
Wild
Hehehe chaos kitty 😁
 TheFlyingKitten
08:29:22 Petri Dish/Dert
Crap, now I have the urge to come up with an OC based off the word Schadenfreude.
 Wild Runners
08:28:21 Stalking chat
Moon,
Here ye go >:)
-Click-
 TheFlyingKitten
08:24:00 Petri Dish/Dert
ezra

Lol, thank you.
 Ezranian
08:23:32 ezra, he/him
petri-
it's a good critter, very expressive! i'm just busy failing to do homework lol
 TheFlyingKitten
08:21:46 Petri Dish/Dert
Damn it, Critter killed Chat. >:c
 TheFlyingKitten
08:17:15 Petri Dish/Dert
-Click-

Ugh, my Critter. I don't think I've come across many OCs with Schadenfreude as a ruling character trait. ~w~
 Wild Runners
08:15:52 Stalking chat
Moon,
Thank you again!
the more I draw the better I get lol
 Moonfall
08:15:10 Many moons, one me
Wild
Looks fluffy!
 Akira Fire
08:14:35 AW
Moonfall
Yes its laggy for me
 Wild Runners
08:14:06 Stalking chat
-Click-

Doodle number I don't even know of today!
 Moonfall
08:13:35 Many moons, one me
Is explore a bit laggy for anyone else or is it just me and my sucky wifi?
 Serpents
08:11:58 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
anyone up for a rp pm me please me im bored
 Wild Runners
08:10:38 Stalking chat
I love doodling
 Sikoa
08:08:51 
Akira,
Maybe Eve pitied them and let them win. :)
 Akira Fire
08:05:18 AW
damn. Eve and bigfoot in the same level. My luck is turning around
 Moonfall
08:05:04 Many moons, one me
Wild
An cat knocking over a Christmas tree? Or plotting to?




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Ecifircas

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


Ecifircas

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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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