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 Eye of Eternity
04:54:22 tern | they/he
theres a new mare at the barn i work at and she is absolutely gorgeous
shes literally child me's dream horse (pony)
 Wild Runners
04:53:09 Stalking chat
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my first ever wolf to reach DG :D
 TheFlyingKitten
04:45:16 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
I am so glad my cat doesn't toss water everywhere when she drinks from the fountain like my dog does. Goofy ahh pup slinging water around all willy nilly.
 distant-lands
04:44:02 katy | beetle
my cat was drooling like a dog the other week because his dumbass licked flea medicine off of his sister. it's not toxic but tastes terrible and makes them drool xD
 RosemaryThyme
04:43:34 
There was also a cat I knew years ago that just drooled an insane amount and I have no idea why, but she was friendly
 distant-lands
04:43:32 katy | beetle
it could be a lot of things. they could have ingested something toxic, have a dental disease, distemper, etc. would be best to call someone and get the cats taken in.
 TheFlyingKitten
04:42:36 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
How does it go from snowing like ass to my state having a fire/dry weather warning in, like, a week?
 RosemaryThyme
04:42:34 
Yeah I’ve heard about a coyote with rabies since I moved to where I am now, and I haven’t been here for long. I probably should’ve worried more about how that stray cat was acting now that I think about it
 SouthernScorpion
04:42:28 Scorpion
several smaller countries have eradicated it but the US is just to large to do it
 TheFlyingKitten
04:41:32 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
Never
Ah, gotcha. It'd be nice if achievable, but alas some things are just not possible.
 SouthernScorpion
04:41:24 Scorpion
it's a few cases a year but not common. I do alot in the rescue world and with native wildlife. being cats and strays it's almost certain they have FLV,FAIDS,ect..
 Nevermore
04:40:38 Never/Nev
Nah, Petri there is still rabies, I'm not sure that it's something that we can get rid of for good
 snake
04:39:13 
maybe they ate something
 RosemaryThyme
04:38:55 
If there’s a chance of rabies, it’s not just good to call someone who can deal with it, it’s important to do so to prevent it from spreading. Hopefully someone that will put it in quarantine and watch for more symptoms instead of dealing with it in other ways
 TheFlyingKitten
04:38:43 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
Yeah, wasn't rabies (mostly) eradicated in the US? I dunno, the wet mouth just automatically sent me there.
 SouthernScorpion
04:37:28 Scorpion
distemper can do that. so can FLV. it's more likely to be those than rabies but AC needs called so they can be humanely euthed
 TheFlyingKitten
04:37:10 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
Sky
They're trying to intimidate the food out of you.
 MLadySkylar
04:36:29 P'Sky/Sky-kun
Petry
I normally feeds the strays but I don't know, they're just acting different
 MLadySkylar
04:36:00 P'Sky/Sky-kun
I might do that
 TheFlyingKitten
04:35:51 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
Sky

Potential rabies case, that or they're just weird cats.
Or what if... Oooh! it's a skinwalker! O_o

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 Eye of Eternity
04:54:22 tern | they/he
theres a new mare at the barn i work at and she is absolutely gorgeous
shes literally child me's dream horse (pony)
 Wild Runners
04:53:09 Stalking chat
-Click-

my first ever wolf to reach DG :D
 TheFlyingKitten
04:45:16 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
I am so glad my cat doesn't toss water everywhere when she drinks from the fountain like my dog does. Goofy ahh pup slinging water around all willy nilly.
 distant-lands
04:44:02 katy | beetle
my cat was drooling like a dog the other week because his dumbass licked flea medicine off of his sister. it's not toxic but tastes terrible and makes them drool xD
 RosemaryThyme
04:43:34 
There was also a cat I knew years ago that just drooled an insane amount and I have no idea why, but she was friendly
 distant-lands
04:43:32 katy | beetle
it could be a lot of things. they could have ingested something toxic, have a dental disease, distemper, etc. would be best to call someone and get the cats taken in.
 TheFlyingKitten
04:42:36 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
How does it go from snowing like ass to my state having a fire/dry weather warning in, like, a week?
 RosemaryThyme
04:42:34 
Yeah I’ve heard about a coyote with rabies since I moved to where I am now, and I haven’t been here for long. I probably should’ve worried more about how that stray cat was acting now that I think about it
 SouthernScorpion
04:42:28 Scorpion
several smaller countries have eradicated it but the US is just to large to do it
 TheFlyingKitten
04:41:32 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
Never
Ah, gotcha. It'd be nice if achievable, but alas some things are just not possible.
 SouthernScorpion
04:41:24 Scorpion
it's a few cases a year but not common. I do alot in the rescue world and with native wildlife. being cats and strays it's almost certain they have FLV,FAIDS,ect..
 Nevermore
04:40:38 Never/Nev
Nah, Petri there is still rabies, I'm not sure that it's something that we can get rid of for good
 snake
04:39:13 
maybe they ate something
 RosemaryThyme
04:38:55 
If there’s a chance of rabies, it’s not just good to call someone who can deal with it, it’s important to do so to prevent it from spreading. Hopefully someone that will put it in quarantine and watch for more symptoms instead of dealing with it in other ways
 TheFlyingKitten
04:38:43 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
Yeah, wasn't rabies (mostly) eradicated in the US? I dunno, the wet mouth just automatically sent me there.
 SouthernScorpion
04:37:28 Scorpion
distemper can do that. so can FLV. it's more likely to be those than rabies but AC needs called so they can be humanely euthed
 TheFlyingKitten
04:37:10 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
Sky
They're trying to intimidate the food out of you.
 MLadySkylar
04:36:29 P'Sky/Sky-kun
Petry
I normally feeds the strays but I don't know, they're just acting different
 MLadySkylar
04:36:00 P'Sky/Sky-kun
I might do that
 TheFlyingKitten
04:35:51 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
Sky

Potential rabies case, that or they're just weird cats.
Or what if... Oooh! it's a skinwalker! O_o




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Ecifircas

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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