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 Eternitys Gaze
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how did my wolf kill 3 seior bears i've only encountered one :'0
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 Salem
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4 more votes and then we're done! ^^
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Depending on how many people participate in my raffle, I'm going to lose a lot of dominance lmao
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I almost forgot about the coffee I brewed- I better go make a cup.
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if any one wants to role play pm me im bord
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Graves
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Treasure
Thank you hehe >:3
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Graves
XD Sure!
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Thank you Reaper XD
My autocorrect keeps trying to call you Treasure or Treasurer. Can I start you that? :D
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Graves
1) Bones!
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Chat I have two questions.

First question
Do I keep her?
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Second question
How the hell do you draw a chibi rabbit
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Reaper
We also don't talk about my music taste o.o

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Touche*
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Nes
...touché
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Reaper
Half the songs that come up on Apple Music and Spotify T^T

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 Nesta
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Khaos
How's the style today?
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Votes please?
 Nesta
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Khaos
Hey
 Eternitys Gaze
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how did my wolf kill 3 seior bears i've only encountered one :'0
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Hey chat.
 Salem
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4 more votes and then we're done! ^^
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 Night Shade
09:54:55 Graves | Chaos
Depending on how many people participate in my raffle, I'm going to lose a lot of dominance lmao
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I almost forgot about the coffee I brewed- I better go make a cup.
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if any one wants to role play pm me im bord
 The Reaper
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Graves
Haha 😂
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Treasure
Thank you hehe >:3
 The Reaper
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Graves
XD Sure!
 Night Shade
09:48:00 Graves | Chaos
Thank you Reaper XD
My autocorrect keeps trying to call you Treasure or Treasurer. Can I start you that? :D
 The Reaper
09:45:15 Reaper / Grim
Graves
1) Bones!
2) No clue! :D
 Night Shade
09:43:56 Graves | Chaos
Chat I have two questions.

First question
Do I keep her?
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Second question
How the hell do you draw a chibi rabbit
 Nesta
09:39:54 Nes/Spider
Reaper
We also don't talk about my music taste o.o

Hey Excho
 VioletEcho
09:30:31 Is a dinosaur rawr
Hi chat
 The Reaper
09:25:00 Reaper / Grim
Touche*
 The Reaper
09:24:53 Reaper / Grim
Nes
...touché
 Nesta
09:20:29 Nes/Spider
Reaper
Half the songs that come up on Apple Music and Spotify T^T




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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