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 Zephyr
04:04:36 Vera || Zeph || Suz
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my family celebrate, but ever since moving away several years back, all of the usual holidays have faded into nothing more than some time off work lmao

enjoy the research! i was hoping to get a quick easter ride in, but instead i'm having to rush to get things sorted before work again tomorrow:')
 SpiritGuardian
04:01:35 Call me your cowboy
zeph, I dont celebrate easter so I was in the clear. I'm only up researching horse muscles ughh
 Zephyr
03:59:33 Vera || Zeph || Suz
Spirit
just enjoyed a quiet few days, not much happening here (un)fortunately. and yourself?
 SpiritGuardian
03:58:42 Call me your cowboy
zeph, have a good holiday?
 Zephyr
03:57:58 Vera || Zeph || Suz
joys of holidays lmao
 SpiritGuardian
03:55:42 Call me your cowboy
the one night im online chats just not existent lmao
 Sabbath
03:49:09 Rook
this wolf needs like 100 more BE but I can't decide if I want to keep exploring >.<
 Hurry
03:46:11 
that is quite nice ^^ enjoy your time there
 Savik
03:33:12 Nalavara
WOW!
 Bambiix
03:31:28 
Guys my plane just landed in PARIS!!
 Savik
02:53:21 Nalavara
Click on Realm, then Marketplace. You will see the Full Moon Celebration Shop. The moon flowers are the *money* for purchasing the goods in the FMC shop.
 Winterfell
02:48:43 Winter
Renne
Menu > marketplace > full moon celebration shop
 Winterfell
02:47:45 Winter
Renne
Moon towers are little items you can spend in the fmc shop you can buy many things with them . You can get them from howling wrestling exploring ect
 Savik
02:47:32 Nalavara
YAY!!!!!
 Ghoulish
02:46:23 
I found the damnn thing!
 Savik
02:38:29 Nalavara
When the mods come online they can help you.
 lovrenee
02:38:26 renee
What are moon flowers and what do I do with them?
 Savik
02:35:10 Nalavara
I had problems with a single square that was not where the map said it was. It took me over a half hour to find that single square.
 Ghoulish
02:31:34 
Guys how do I change my pack picture
 Ghoulish
02:15:39 
I can’t get to it because of the stupid lines up have to stay on

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 Zephyr
04:04:36 Vera || Zeph || Suz
Spirit
my family celebrate, but ever since moving away several years back, all of the usual holidays have faded into nothing more than some time off work lmao

enjoy the research! i was hoping to get a quick easter ride in, but instead i'm having to rush to get things sorted before work again tomorrow:')
 SpiritGuardian
04:01:35 Call me your cowboy
zeph, I dont celebrate easter so I was in the clear. I'm only up researching horse muscles ughh
 Zephyr
03:59:33 Vera || Zeph || Suz
Spirit
just enjoyed a quiet few days, not much happening here (un)fortunately. and yourself?
 SpiritGuardian
03:58:42 Call me your cowboy
zeph, have a good holiday?
 Zephyr
03:57:58 Vera || Zeph || Suz
joys of holidays lmao
 SpiritGuardian
03:55:42 Call me your cowboy
the one night im online chats just not existent lmao
 Sabbath
03:49:09 Rook
this wolf needs like 100 more BE but I can't decide if I want to keep exploring >.<
 Hurry
03:46:11 
that is quite nice ^^ enjoy your time there
 Savik
03:33:12 Nalavara
WOW!
 Bambiix
03:31:28 
Guys my plane just landed in PARIS!!
 Savik
02:53:21 Nalavara
Click on Realm, then Marketplace. You will see the Full Moon Celebration Shop. The moon flowers are the *money* for purchasing the goods in the FMC shop.
 Winterfell
02:48:43 Winter
Renne
Menu > marketplace > full moon celebration shop
 Winterfell
02:47:45 Winter
Renne
Moon towers are little items you can spend in the fmc shop you can buy many things with them . You can get them from howling wrestling exploring ect
 Savik
02:47:32 Nalavara
YAY!!!!!
 Ghoulish
02:46:23 
I found the damnn thing!
 Savik
02:38:29 Nalavara
When the mods come online they can help you.
 lovrenee
02:38:26 renee
What are moon flowers and what do I do with them?
 Savik
02:35:10 Nalavara
I had problems with a single square that was not where the map said it was. It took me over a half hour to find that single square.
 Ghoulish
02:31:34 
Guys how do I change my pack picture
 Ghoulish
02:15:39 
I can’t get to it because of the stupid lines up have to stay on




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Ecifircas

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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