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 TheFlyingKitten
05:43:57 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
I'm back! Could only eat half of my dinner thanks to my broken tooth, lol.
 Kitties
05:43:51 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
Here's where y'all are getting confused. Generative AI creates new things, which is why we see hallucinations. Non generative AI doesn't create new things it only analyzes what it's given. That's why generative AI is bad, but non generative AI is almost essential.
 EvergreenHills
05:43:48 Juicy Arm Boy
Can we stop talking about ai :/
 Cloudy bird
05:43:23 
(soz, the website i am referring to is 'this-person-does-not-exist' website
 Cloudy bird
05:42:50 
Ah back in the days before generative AI images, I would use the random generators. Or the -Click- website, when I needed inspiration
 SouthernScorpion
05:41:19 Scorpion
Ai has also been researched and proven to stalemate your creativity. artists that use AI are mentally affect by AI, very badly whether they realize it or not, it has sadly been proven to kill creativity
 Cloudy bird
05:41:07 
tern
Yep, it also encourages "dual psychosis": when perosn solely uses AI for therapeutic reasons, eventually AI was known to encourage the person's delusions or feed into it. Not out of maliciousnes -> but cause it just reflects the feelings. ChatGPT is one of the notorious models to do this
 Kitties
05:40:32 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
@Eye of eternity
ChatGPT is generative, I don't like generative models as yes they do hallucinate. Other forms of AI don't though.
 Eye of Eternity
05:40:09 tern | they/he
owlstar
dont use it for that. ai for art is never acceptable. trust me, you can find good free linearts, poses, photographs, sketches, whatever you want to reference made by a real person
same for backgrounds- or just make them yourself
 SouthernScorpion
05:39:44 Scorpion
Oh! someone just gave me a apple gift <3 thank you unknown
 Kitties
05:39:43 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
Guys that's generative AI. There's
Non generative AIs that help us analyze things. It's easily researchable. AI is a broad term that encompasses Machine learning, Neural networks, Deep learning, and AI. I work with neural networks all the time for experiments on how things affect the brain while alive. As of right now the only way to do that is via neural networks which are copies of the human brain.
 SouthernScorpion
05:38:18 Scorpion
when i said medical field, i meant in actual medical work (it can be used carefully to detect early cancer) but should always be checked by a human. using AI for art or research is not only theft, it's bad for the environment and it's bad for the creative using it
 Cloudy bird
05:37:46 
(also to add AI is useful in recognising images of cancer in xrays or other such scans... however an alternative is trained pigeons and I like that alternative much more :3 )
 Eye of Eternity
05:37:30 tern | they/he
kit
it also hallucinates a lot. i believe 38%? of the newest chatgpt model's answers are entirely hallucinated
 Apothecary
05:37:27 Medicinally Autistic
Exactly, it pulls ALL statistics, even ones that aren't necessarily true or correct.
 Kitties
05:36:14 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
AI is used to analyze statistics in pretty much all areas of research. Pretty much all predictions we make and patterns we discover are assisted by AI. AI isn't just the stuff you find on the internet.
 Owlstar
05:36:10 tiger\Owl|she\her
For me ai is ok. I just like it for line art ideas and making pretty bgs on canva. I always edit the line arts because that’s just how I like it
 Eye of Eternity
05:35:55 tern | they/he
its not great in medical areas- i saw something that some hospital was using ai to determine what patients were able to have insurance or premium care or something and it ended up being racist and classist
 Apothecary
05:34:29 Medicinally Autistic
All ai is really bad, for the environment, for building the learning capabilities of the younger generations, and because it steals work, and can't always give an accurate representation to topics that should be researched instead of being provided an opinion on.
 SouthernScorpion
05:34:19 Scorpion
oops forgot my caps sorry

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 TheFlyingKitten
05:43:57 Petri Dish/ENA Mum
I'm back! Could only eat half of my dinner thanks to my broken tooth, lol.
 Kitties
05:43:51 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
Here's where y'all are getting confused. Generative AI creates new things, which is why we see hallucinations. Non generative AI doesn't create new things it only analyzes what it's given. That's why generative AI is bad, but non generative AI is almost essential.
 EvergreenHills
05:43:48 Juicy Arm Boy
Can we stop talking about ai :/
 Cloudy bird
05:43:23 
(soz, the website i am referring to is 'this-person-does-not-exist' website
 Cloudy bird
05:42:50 
Ah back in the days before generative AI images, I would use the random generators. Or the -Click- website, when I needed inspiration
 SouthernScorpion
05:41:19 Scorpion
Ai has also been researched and proven to stalemate your creativity. artists that use AI are mentally affect by AI, very badly whether they realize it or not, it has sadly been proven to kill creativity
 Cloudy bird
05:41:07 
tern
Yep, it also encourages "dual psychosis": when perosn solely uses AI for therapeutic reasons, eventually AI was known to encourage the person's delusions or feed into it. Not out of maliciousnes -> but cause it just reflects the feelings. ChatGPT is one of the notorious models to do this
 Kitties
05:40:32 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
@Eye of eternity
ChatGPT is generative, I don't like generative models as yes they do hallucinate. Other forms of AI don't though.
 Eye of Eternity
05:40:09 tern | they/he
owlstar
dont use it for that. ai for art is never acceptable. trust me, you can find good free linearts, poses, photographs, sketches, whatever you want to reference made by a real person
same for backgrounds- or just make them yourself
 SouthernScorpion
05:39:44 Scorpion
Oh! someone just gave me a apple gift <3 thank you unknown
 Kitties
05:39:43 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
Guys that's generative AI. There's
Non generative AIs that help us analyze things. It's easily researchable. AI is a broad term that encompasses Machine learning, Neural networks, Deep learning, and AI. I work with neural networks all the time for experiments on how things affect the brain while alive. As of right now the only way to do that is via neural networks which are copies of the human brain.
 SouthernScorpion
05:38:18 Scorpion
when i said medical field, i meant in actual medical work (it can be used carefully to detect early cancer) but should always be checked by a human. using AI for art or research is not only theft, it's bad for the environment and it's bad for the creative using it
 Cloudy bird
05:37:46 
(also to add AI is useful in recognising images of cancer in xrays or other such scans... however an alternative is trained pigeons and I like that alternative much more :3 )
 Eye of Eternity
05:37:30 tern | they/he
kit
it also hallucinates a lot. i believe 38%? of the newest chatgpt model's answers are entirely hallucinated
 Apothecary
05:37:27 Medicinally Autistic
Exactly, it pulls ALL statistics, even ones that aren't necessarily true or correct.
 Kitties
05:36:14 Kit/Kitty/kitten/K
AI is used to analyze statistics in pretty much all areas of research. Pretty much all predictions we make and patterns we discover are assisted by AI. AI isn't just the stuff you find on the internet.
 Owlstar
05:36:10 tiger\Owl|she\her
For me ai is ok. I just like it for line art ideas and making pretty bgs on canva. I always edit the line arts because that’s just how I like it
 Eye of Eternity
05:35:55 tern | they/he
its not great in medical areas- i saw something that some hospital was using ai to determine what patients were able to have insurance or premium care or something and it ended up being racist and classist
 Apothecary
05:34:29 Medicinally Autistic
All ai is really bad, for the environment, for building the learning capabilities of the younger generations, and because it steals work, and can't always give an accurate representation to topics that should be researched instead of being provided an opinion on.
 SouthernScorpion
05:34:19 Scorpion
oops forgot my caps sorry




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   WP CookbookJuly 25, 2025 05:57 PM


Kháos

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A place for WPers to share all their favorite recipes! Let us know how it tastes.

I'll go first, my favorite thing to make is the scrumptious pizza grilled cheese sandwich. This is pizza, but in grilled cheese sandwich form. You need garlic butter, cheese, toppings (optional, I make pepperoni for my mom and I, plain cheese for my dad), tomato sauce, and preferably thick bread, but your regular bread loaf works too (it's what I normally use and how I learned).

Notes:

- This is a stove-made food.

- Don't forget your regular butter or non-stick spray.

- Don't be like me and turn the stove on High for the first few minutes, then shut it off. That undercooks the insides and overcooks the bread. You want to take your time with this.

Estimated Time: 15-45 minutes

Instructions:

1. Add regular butter to the pan to prevent things from sticking.

2. Let the pan heat up, then spread garlic butter over one side of the bread before setting it facedown onto the pan.

3. You can either wait and take the bread out once it's light brown or follow this step now while it's still in the pan. I personally do it in the pan, then take it out for the second slice. Spread some sauce on the facing-up side of your bread.

4. Add your toppings and cheese. I add a few pieces of pepperoni first, then lots of cheese, then a singular piece of pepperoni on the top.

5. Once cheese has melted slightly (make sure bread isn't burnt), remove the slice of bread from the pan and repeat for the other slice of bread.

6. Carefully, empathise on carefully, put the two pieces of bread together like a sandwich.

7. Place the sandwich back onto the pan and let it heat up until the cheese appears to have melted and/or the bread has turned darker brown. Remove sandwich from the pan. You have created a yummy pizza grilled cheese sandwich.

This topic was inspired by Redd River Wolves (and Apothecary and Eve for making Redd hungry).


Edited at July 25, 2025 07:35 PM by Kháos
WP CookbookJuly 30, 2025 04:08 PM


Apothecary

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1 bag of stelline pasta from target the black and clear bag type
1 block cream cheese
1-2 cups of finely chopped spinach
1 can of pasta sauce (your choice)
refill pasta sauce can with water or broth
shredded cheese of your choice
Dump all ingredients into a crockpot, stir it, including some of the shredded cheese, put on slow cook on high for 30 minutes, open it up and stir, and then slow cook on high for another 30 minutes.
you can also cook this in an oven safe pan, preferably bigger like a cake pan, on 400 covered for 45-60 minutes.

Edited at July 30, 2025 04:08 PM by Apothecary
WP CookbookDecember 3, 2025 01:07 PM


Giftofeden

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This is a South African Lasagne. Might add Chilli to make it spicy as well.
When I make it, my brother says it's better than the restaurant.

Beef Mince Filling

  • 1 1/3lb
    beef mince
  • 1 1/3piece
    onion, finely chopped
  • 1 1/3sprig
    thyme
  • 1 1/3tbsp
    ginger and garlic paste
  • 1 1/3tsp
    garlic powder
  • 1 1/3tsp
    onion powder
  • 1 1/3tsp
    black pepper
  • 1 1/3tsp
    salt
  • 2 2/3piece
    tomato, grated
  • 1 1/3can
    tomato puree
  • 2/3tsp
    sugar (optional)

White Sauce

  • 2 2/3
    stick butter, melted
  • 2 2/3tbsp
    flour
  • 3 1/3cup
    milk
  • 1 1/3tsp
    garlic powder
  • 1 1/3tsp
    onion powder
  • 1 1/3tsp
    salt
  • 1 1/3tsp
    black pepper

Assembly

  • 1 1/3
    package lasagna sheets
  • 2 2/3cup
    grated cheese
Method:

Beef Mince Filling

  1. In a frying pan, heat oil.

  2. Add onions, thyme, ginger, and garlic paste. Allow to simmer for 3 minutes.

  3. Add mince and cook for 10 minutes, turning every 5 minutes. Allowing water to dry.

  4. Add garlic powder, onion powder, black pepper, and salt to taste. Stir and simmer for 5 minutes.

  5. Add grated tomatoes and canned tomato puree. If too sour, add sugar.

  6. Cook for 15 minutes on low heat. Set aside to cool down.

White Sauce

  1. In a heated pan, add butter and allow to melt.

  2. Add flour and stir with a hand whisk to prevent sticking and lumps.

  3. Add milk and stir continuously until desired texture is achieved.

  4. Add garlic powder, onion powder, salt, and black pepper. Set aside.

Assembly

  1. In an oven tray, place lasagna sheets followed by cooked mince and white sauce. Repeat the procedure 2 more times.

  2. Place in a preheated oven at 180°C and bake for 15 minutes.

  3. Remove from oven, top with grated cheese, and bake for a further 10 minutes.

WP CookbookFebruary 20, 2026 01:54 AM


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Oh, before I forget. Very simple, but bread, pepperoni and cheese is very yummy.

What you need:

- one piece of white bolillo bread (probably any roll, but this is what I prefer, so it's what I'm noting down ^^)

- pepperoni

- shredded cheese

- microwave

Instructions:

You don't really need utensils for this unless you don't like using your hands. I tear the bread in half right down the middle, shove cheese inside until it's overflowing, and then stuff a few (6-8) pieces of pepperoni on top. Optional, maybe cover the pepperoni with more cheese just so it feels covered better.

When it's done and looking like a mess, it's ready to be microwaved on a plate for 30-45 seconds. I do 30 seconds, but I'm experimenting with 45 seconds to see if it cooks the cheese better since I drown the bread with cheese. If you want to try 60 seconds, that's up to you. I personally think 45 is borderline about to burn the pepperoni though.

Not Instructions:

Once you take the bread out, you'll understand why I said "overflow with cheese". I found that out the difficult way when there was a thin layer of cheese barely covering my pepperoni. :,) And that's it. Very quick and easy to make, very yummy. I wanted to share with someone and thought why not here.


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