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Also thank you. She loved them too.
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And I absolutely love those :00 they're so cute I love em
I'll definitely dm you about art sometime<33
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Xyxy
Whats starting?
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I dont remember if I showed you or not but these are 2 tattoo designs I made for one of my coworkers cause she asked me to design her a tattoo. She said she is gonna get both
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I gotta go it's starting hope to catch you sometime again xx
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Xyxy
Hey. You know i love doing art.
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I should get more art >:)
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Omgim so happy. They were super nice and understanding. I got my axanthic back. Im so happy 😊
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I see my partner in 48 minutes. So freaking hyped ohh my god
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I’m back (sorry I kinda sidetracked lol that what you get with an ADHD brain)
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Yall im praying this pack will be nice and let me have my axanthic back. I boarded with another pack for a couple days and they put him up for 5 mush for me to pick up and did it when I was offline. Im o sad. 😭

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 Carpe Noctem
04:30:00 Carpal Tunnel
It was squirrels this year.
 CriesInTheNight
04:24:07 The Howling Shrek
what was Eves this year april fools day like?
 CriesInTheNight
04:23:42 The Howling Shrek
boop a very random and quick hello, to anyone who remembers me. im still MIA but hello
 starrii-featherz
04:19:17 starrii, Lucida, Hex
Waiting for Margo to go into labor so I can see if there's any decent pups to keep or not, I need to know since I'm drawing her and Lune together right now

-WP Click-
 Winterfell
03:34:29 Winter
My raffle isn't doing well this time round and I wonder why I added better stuff >.>
 Smilecat
03:24:52 Anthony // He/they
just finished reading a piece of fiction so good it made me cry and i cant talk about it irl because it was fanfic
anyway, good night chatters
 Cypress Road
02:40:04 Axan hoarder
Also thank you. She loved them too.
 Cypress Road
02:39:36 Axan hoarder
Oh. Have fun at church
 Xanthia
02:38:33 Vash | Xy
Cy
Church
And I absolutely love those :00 they're so cute I love em
I'll definitely dm you about art sometime<33
 Cypress Road
02:35:04 Axan hoarder
Xyxy
Whats starting?
 Cypress Road
02:34:40 Axan hoarder
Xyxy
I dont remember if I showed you or not but these are 2 tattoo designs I made for one of my coworkers cause she asked me to design her a tattoo. She said she is gonna get both
-Click-
-Click-
 Xanthia
02:34:29 Vash | Xy
I gotta go it's starting hope to catch you sometime again xx
 Xanthia
02:34:14 Vash | Xy
Hey
Cycy<33 yes I do🤭
 Cypress Road
02:32:23 Axan hoarder
Xyxy
Hey. You know i love doing art.
 Xanthia
02:25:41 Vash | Xy
I should get more art >:)
 Xanthia
02:20:01 Vash | Xy
Heyy
 Cypress Road
02:05:17 Axan hoarder
Omgim so happy. They were super nice and understanding. I got my axanthic back. Im so happy 😊
 Collar
02:02:35 Altar 🦌
I see my partner in 48 minutes. So freaking hyped ohh my god
 The Rat Lord
01:58:38 Rat/spooky/(he/him)
I’m back (sorry I kinda sidetracked lol that what you get with an ADHD brain)
 Cypress Road
01:53:36 Axan hoarder
Yall im praying this pack will be nice and let me have my axanthic back. I boarded with another pack for a couple days and they put him up for 5 mush for me to pick up and did it when I was offline. Im o sad. 😭




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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Ecifircas

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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