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Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 12, 2023 06:44 PM


Matunda

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There's definitely a lack of new topics. Most roleplays I've seen nowadays either follow the same storyline or are reposted / recycled roleplays that never exit the sign-up stage. Most of the best roleplays I've seen occurred in 2019, and especially the early to mid 2020. After that, there's been a massive dwindle in both roleplayers and roleplays alike. Forums don't reach the usual 3-4 pages anymore, and you're lucky if you even see 2 pages full of new forums. And yes this means there's lack of diversity. Diversity is a massive issue, especially with recycled content that is spit out every week or so.

A large issue nowadays is commitment. I've noticed roleplay creators have a tendency to reserve important or high position roles for themselves and friends of theirs, leaving what I call "scraps" for the remainder. This can be generally unfair, as it reatricts creativity outside that close group. When there's a lack of creativity, there's a lack of will. This then translates to abandonment by those who are outsiders from this group. It's unfair. So we absolutely need to change this "hogging" of positions and allow more people to hold the reigns.

Another issue is engagement. Hosts, a good 2 or so years back, when roleplays were very bountiful and plenty, were much more engaged with their forums and participants. They wouldn't wait long to make discussion forums, would check up on others, etc etc. Nowadays there's less of that. Engagement helps, because it allows for easy communication. Without communication, roleplays die. This is something that needs working on too.

I won't say this is a perfect fix, because it isn't, but hopefully these criticisms are constructive enough that they help future and current roleplay hosts alike



I agree with you on this. I slightly mentioned the lack of diversity in my post above, and I do agree that it is definitely a problem, especially with animal RPs. Most animal RPs are either wolf, horse, or lion RPs, which are very well known animals. I think that others also don't give trying to play as other animals a chance, since they're so used to having the same animals, that they just stick to the same ones.

I also agree with you on your second paragraph. Most RPs I see, the host is almost always has their main character the highest rank character in the RP, which is quite annoying sometimes. It does sometimes make me feel like the host and their friend's character's are the main characters, and always in a spotlight, while my characters never get spoken to. I feel like that often when I join almost any RP where the host and their friends take the higher ranked spots.

An issue I also see is some of the hosts seem to lack care about what their fellow RPs ask for. In many RPs, if I ask for like a drama plot of some sort, my suggestion will go by almost completely unnoticed. Now remember, I said some RPs. Not all. I think that many RP hosts do a great job at keeping up with their RP's discussion threads.

Now I'm not saying that RP hosts need to dedicate their entire lives to their RP once they host it, I'm saying that if they come back to 15 replies in their RP's discussion thread, that they at least read those 15 posts, and respond to a few, since most discussion thread posts are only a sentence or two long.


Edited at October 12, 2023 06:48 PM by Malenge
Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 12, 2023 09:22 PM


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no for real. I opened up the roleplay forum earlier and was shocked at how many recycled rps I saw lmaooo like this one that I'd SWEAR has been in circulation since 2020 and it keeps getting reposted and never started lmaooo
Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 12, 2023 10:50 PM


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Eternity said:
I don't RP much on WP any more, on some days it feels like I've aged out of it a bit ahah. I used to roleplay on WP during 2018 and 2019. So I can't comment much on recent RPs.

However, I think almost the 'death of forum roleplay' has been a pretty common things amongst many of the forum sites I used to frequent. It feels like forum and text-based roleplay has died down a lot, and I can't help but wonder if more people are switching to online games and simulator games rather than forums.


I'm not sure what all of the factors are and why the people on WP have changed, but I wonder if part of it is Covid, and people are glad to be back out in the world living and don't make as much time for WP. I thought Eternity's point was interesting, because I didn't know about that.
I also know a lot have "aged out" and moved on with their lives. I know that a few things that made a good roleplay was people who were excited to write and share ideas, had crazy sleep schedules and an unhealthy dedication to roleplaying, and also making friends in the roleplays so that the discussions were fun and we were comfortable with each other. I think I hit a time when people had the time and were really crazy and passionate about writing and roleplaying. We were inspired and pushed each other to become better. I personally don't have the time or energy anymore to roleplay the way I used to. I have different priorities, so I think the roleplay situation in the forums is not something that an interesting plot is going to change. I think the players have changed.
So I think one of my questions is why didn't new roleplayers move in and replace the old ones? Can we make people super passionate about writing and sharing their ideas? Can we encourage people to be super committed? I think that would be key in reinvigorating the roleplays
Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 12, 2023 10:53 PM


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I remember before I got to where I am in literacy, I was inspired and pushed - gently by those better than me, and I strive to learn and continue to grow in my writing . I definitely remember the people who were committed and when it was fun and just having random bullshit ideas at 2 am

Sir Froggington said:

Eternity said:
I don't RP much on WP any more, on some days it feels like I've aged out of it a bit ahah. I used to roleplay on WP during 2018 and 2019. So I can't comment much on recent RPs.

However, I think almost the 'death of forum roleplay' has been a pretty common things amongst many of the forum sites I used to frequent. It feels like forum and text-based roleplay has died down a lot, and I can't help but wonder if more people are switching to online games and simulator games rather than forums.


I'm not sure what all of the factors are and why the people on WP have changed, but I wonder if part of it is Covid, and people are glad to be back out in the world living and don't make as much time for WP. I thought Eternity's point was interesting, because I didn't know about that.
I also know a lot have "aged out" and moved on with their lives. I know that a few things that made a good roleplay was people who were excited to write and share ideas, had crazy sleep schedules and an unhealthy dedication to roleplaying, and also making friends in the roleplays so that the discussions were fun and we were comfortable with each other. I think I hit a time when people had the time and were really crazy and passionate about writing and roleplaying. We were inspired and pushed each other to become better. I personally don't have the time or energy anymore to roleplay the way I used to. I have different priorities, so I think the roleplay situation in the forums is not something that an interesting plot is going to change. I think the players have changed.
So I think one of my questions is why didn't new roleplayers move in and replace the old ones? Can we make people super passionate about writing and sharing their ideas? Can we encourage people to be super committed? I think that would be key in reinvigorating the roleplays


Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 12, 2023 11:21 PM


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Hello.

I think this is a wonderful discussion to behaving right now, and I believe many have made valid points. While I agree with most of them, I think there are some things to keep in mind, and I'll try to explain what I mean here.

First, as someone who does recycle their Rps, I can say it does feel dull and overdone at times, though I try to keep things interesting when I can. However, most of the Rps I recycle are ones I genuinely enjoy and want to take off, and hope that maybe this time that will happen. As an Rp creator, there are a lot of things I have to take into consideration when making an rp. Things from literacy level, the subject or species, the main plot, but also things like ranks, possibility of subplots and ships, etc. For me, I need an Rp that has lots of room for different drama within the general plot of the Rp, particularly character driven Rps. Sometimes things that interest me don't interest the majority of those who Roleplay here so I could have a banger plot with room for loads of drama, but if the species/topic doesn't have interest then people wont join. Sometimes you also might want to roleplay a species, but you just cant make it work because there just isn't enough involved. Like I would love to Rp crocodiles but I have no idea how to make it work.

I think, speaking from a creator's perspective, it can be hard to balance what you want to make an rp out of and what will interest people. And then, once you make an rp you have to put in the effort to keep it active. I'll be honest, I tend to get exhausted with sign ups, the constant making characters just for an rp to never do well. Or struggling to get people to finish characters, or even participate after their characters are finished. Being someone who works now two jobs, I don't have the time or energy to hound people constantly, so now I've gotten to the point I don't do it anymore. If you don't finish a character or ever join in, I just remove people. I know its harsh, and I always take people's personal lives into account, but it can be frustrating to see the repetitive cycle of struggling to get rps off the ground because of this. Now I will say, this tends to be why I give high ranks, or more important ranks, to people I trust and rp regularly with [aka my friends]. This helps me ensure that those pivotal roles remain active hopefully and can help keep an rp active and moving. Now, I try to make roles and ranks of value available to others outside of my main group, but it can't always be done.

Now, I will say I still try to keep things interesting and open for people, and I try to take others' suggestions into consideration when leading an Rp. Im a control freak, so I'll admit I tend to try and keep a firm grasp on my Rps reigns. However, I try to be malleable enough to roll with how things might change. Im not the best at it, but I do try.

I also know I personally struggle with my own things. One day I can be 100% devoted to an Rp, the next minute I could be completely uninterested. I have no control over it, and it sucks, especially when I do it to my own Rps. But that's life, and my brain is a fickle thing, so a lot of times I have to feed whatever creative urge I have so I can come back to whatever I was working on before.

I know this was long winded, but I wanted to offer my insight as someone whos been apart of the Forums or a while and struggles with much of what you've said.


Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 14, 2023 02:23 PM


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Spellbound even after reusing the same roleplay topic your roleplays still dont take off

Spellbound said:
Yeah, and a lot of those who were good have left. I miss the good RPing days. Plus it's hard to find those that are active enough to keep up.


Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 14, 2023 02:38 PM


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If you know you have a problem with dropping RPs and/or losing complete interest in them from one day to the next, then why do yall keep making RPs. The Sign-ups are basically clogged with empty RPs.

Edited at October 14, 2023 02:38 PM by sputnik
Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 14, 2023 05:29 PM


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If you think it's so easy to create and maintain a Roleplay, Sputnik, why don't you do so yourself? There's no reason to be rude to Spellbound, she has plenty of successful roleplays, plus her skill in literacy and what she brings to the table for the rps is rivaled only by few. By being rude, you've ruined any chance of anyone taking anything you say on this type of discussion seriously since you've showed you have no interest in helping provide a solution and instead just ridiculing those who try their best. We're human. We make mistakes and we struggle with things. Instead of bashing people, perhaps you should offer ideas on how to help. If not, then perhaps this discussion isn't for you, because if it isn't constructive then there's no reason to say it.
Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 14, 2023 05:33 PM


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Imperial Sands said:
If you think it's so easy to create and maintain a Roleplay, Sputnik, why don't you do so yourself? There's no reason to be rude to Spellbound, she has plenty of successful roleplays, plus her skill in literacy and what she brings to the table for the rps is rivaled only by few. By being rude, you've ruined any chance of anyone taking anything you say on this type of discussion seriously since you've showed you have no interest in helping provide a solution and instead just ridiculing those who try their best. We're human. We make mistakes and we struggle with things. Instead of bashing people, perhaps you should offer ideas on how to help. If not, then perhaps this discussion isn't for you, because if it isn't constructive then there's no reason to say it.


Impasta to the rescue. :D

Whats up With Roleplays Lately?October 14, 2023 07:02 PM


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i've seen this a few times, been debating putting my two cents in. with recycled roleplays, i think they clog up the forms, but do more damage as well. people become accustomed to those roleplays, and so whenever someone goes to make something out of the standard, nobody joins. basically what i'm getting at here is they lack creativity and nobody wants to join a roleplay that's actually creative, and not the usual horse or dragon roleplay

and i'm not saying that recycled roleplays aren't creative, because some of them are. but after the first few times they don't take off, it just gets annoying to see them continually clogging up the forms. as someone who used to be heavy in the rp scene, both 1x1 and group, i can definitely see major changes. nobody is as literate anymore, not as invested in roleplays. so that does make it quite challenging for the people who host them, and i can see why they recycle the roleplays that they want to take off. while i do prefer 1x1s and rarely join group rps nowadays, it's because it's also so hard to find literate people.

i'll admit, i'm not nearly as good of a writer as i was when i was very involved in the rp scene. but still, it's quite hard to find people who are both active, involved, and literate. that's also a huge reason why rps are they way they are now. there's many other things i could talk about, but haha i'm not going to just drone on and on. those are my two major thoughts at the moment. as for fixing the roleplay scene, there's not all that much that can be done, in my personal opinion


Edited at October 14, 2023 07:03 PM by honeymoon

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