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09:12:09 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
-WP Click- OKay more to train
 avelexa
09:11:26 lex
Otherwise its really not that worth it in my opinion
 Serpents
09:11:15 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
I'm bored anyone up for an rp
 avelexa
09:11:09 lex
Exactly...I only use temple offerings when I have a big space for that exact reason, and I basically use the wreaths when I see a Grendel or get 6 bears or something
 Sabbath
09:09:21 Rook
It makes no sense for items to count tiles you've already stepped on because of how the explore levels are generated in the first place. If I use a wreath at the end of a path for one creature and then I have to retrace 10 tiles I've already walked on to get to the next new space.. I've wasted half the item already.
 Transcendence
09:07:05 anti gen ai
Would be better if i wasnt one of those people with laggy explore olease dont double count the tiles lag makes me step on 🤣
 avelexa
09:06:39 lex
I agree, it's not the best :/ the same thing happens when you burn an offering at a temple and a wolf gets boosted stats for a set number of steps
 DoggPuk3
09:05:50 Dogg :>
Zera
Oh yeah I completely forgot to pay attention to that bahaha, if I had noticed it said Hunt I would have had my answer xD
 Sabbath
09:05:43 Rook
It shouldn't work that way, in my opinion. That should be fixed.
 Transcendence
09:04:52 anti gen ai
Nah that sucks, the items count the already stepped tiles whats the point 💀
 Zeraphia
09:04:51 Vah is less okay
You can usually tell the difference by the button on the page. If it says; "hunt" it won't count as an enemy. Enemies have "battle" on the button.
 Zeraphia
09:04:27 Vah is less okay
Dogg

Nope! She counts as prey.
 DoggPuk3
09:03:52 Dogg :>
Hey guys does Eve count as a predator in your territory that you have to kill in order to level up?
 avelexa
08:59:59 lex
Sabbath, unfortunately it does count each tile step, even if its one you already been on :/
 Sabbath
08:55:31 Rook
like I thought if you go over tiles you've already been on, the item doesn't count that as a step
 Sabbath
08:55:01 Rook
Chat I have a question: the explore items that last 'x' amount of steps.. those usually count NEW tiles as steps right? or am I tripping
 BellJake
08:51:11 Don't call me BJ.
@Nux
Very pretty...
 ~♥Nux♥~
08:47:49 You're just yellow
Isn't she perty? Spend 400 mush on her ^^
 BellJake
08:44:38 Don't call me BJ.
@Nux
A-Albino..? ...
 BellJake
08:44:11 Don't call me BJ.
Oh, LOL

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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Hades

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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