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01:06:34 Emmet , Spoopy Wolf
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Speaking of customized Erys, can I get some paws on her?
 kycantina
01:04:47 no. 1 swamp defender
Katy, thank you!! hopefully he follows the family tradition of being pretty and throwing pretty pups <3
 TheFlyingKitten
01:04:14 Petri Dish/Sorceress
Is it me or has there been a distinct lack of Bird Watchers lately?
 Continental Wolves
01:03:43 Emmet , Spoopy Wolf
I only have female Erys customized at the moment ;-;
 distant-lands
01:02:09 katy | beetle
ky,
oo i just saw that you customized him :0 he's very pretty!
 Melancholy
01:01:39 
haven't been lucky enough to get an ery yet though
 kycantina
01:01:05 no. 1 swamp defender
Katy, hopefully you get something good!! I'm very pleased with the pup of hers I purchased :))
 Zeraphia
01:00:52 Vah hoards mushies
I'm trying to find a solid ery stud ;-;

Rueben is all I got. lol
 Melancholy
01:00:16 
distant,
I said that same thing once, and then this one gave me two in the same litter lol

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 distant-lands
12:58:31 katy | beetle
emmet,
very true xD trying to collect a few more ery's though so i have more variety in my den

there's no good ery studs however
 Continental Wolves
12:57:40 Emmet , Spoopy Wolf
Katy
You can never have enough melas
 distant-lands
12:56:31 katy | beetle
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i hope she gives me something good this time :> i don't need any more melas lol
 Continental Wolves
12:54:05 Emmet , Spoopy Wolf
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Paws for him?
 Serpents
12:53:07 Waterfall,Zane,Pixal
Im bored also I distrust my mail
 TheFlyingKitten
12:47:01 Petri Dish/Sorceress
Oh! Mag! I finally noticed the text in explore about random children! It's... interesting.
 distant-lands
12:44:01 katy | beetle
hey ky! ^^
 kycantina
12:43:26 no. 1 swamp defender
Katy!!
 Magnus Bane
12:42:46 Mag/Maggy
Hello
 distant-lands
12:41:55 katy | beetle
ugh i need to explore more

i maxed out 6 wolves' CP and now they're just sitting there.. rotting away e.o
 Zeraphia
12:38:02 Vah hoards mushies
Hey Emmet!

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PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:15 PM


Hades

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Genuinely, how does PvP work? What makes a wolf a winner or not?

Who takes turns first and does this affect the outcome?

Wolves with less than 1/4 of the BE of mine are consistently winning PvPs and it's left me stumped.

For example, Nesta's 30 BE 124 pound wolf beat my 149 pound 300 BE wolf, how does that work?

If you are a premium pack with a battle specialization, do those extra moves apply in PvP?

When a move (like Death Grip) says (Off +30), does it mean that move does 30 damage?

Do all moves do the same amount of damage after a certain point?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:22 PM


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I think CP has a big part in if a wolf wins or not, BE isn't as big of a part of it as you'd think from my experience
The person who accepts a battle request goes second and the person who put out the battle request almost always wins so I think it affects a lot
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:23 PM


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Same as Salem ^^ Guess why it's always me who put them up 😀

Edited at April 8, 2024 02:28 PM by Leo's
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:32 PM


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@Salem, I would have accepted that if my wolves had been the ones with less CP but in almost all instances, my wolves had maxed Battle, Agility, Stealth, and Resolve and theirs did not.

Is it just the most CP overall? That wouldn't make much sense but I figure it's worth asking.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:35 PM


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I haven't PvP'd in a long time but that's what I assume 'cause I maxed out all the battle stats and still lost and the only real difference was overall CP count
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:45 PM


Hades

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Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:48 PM


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Ecifircas said:
Well, I really appreciate your help.

What if the wolves are both maxed out? What does it come down to then? I would appreciate more people's opinions / anecdotal evidence if possible.


If both are maxed in weight, CP and BE it's the first move that is the essential :3
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:53 PM


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No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?
PvP ConfusionApril 8, 2024 02:55 PM


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Ecifircas said:
No, not weight. I meant if they are both maxed in CP, what then?


BE?
PvP ConfusionApril 9, 2024 05:21 PM


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Hello, as someone with, ahem, lots of PvP experience, here is my take. Prepare for an essay. Please note probably not all of this is exactly factual, but more so how I've come to understand PvP after thousands of battles.
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PvP is mostly based on RNG (luck, basically). Typically, whoever puts the battle request up will have the starting advantage because they get to go first. However, that doesn't always mean they will land the first attack. This means that if you put the request up and your wolf misses the first attack, the other player now has the advantage.

I've been in plenty of PvP battles in which my DG DH wolf was up against a non-boosted wolf with significantly less BE and I've still lost due to poor RNG. This alone is why some people do not like PvP. And I'll admit, it's very frustrating to lose a match that is very heavily favored for you to win.

Aside from the RNG, CP plays a vastly more important role in determining the outcome of the battle than BE does. If you have a wolf with 0 BE vs a 925+ BE wolf, but they have the same amount of CP, the difference between the hits will only be 4 damage. So for example, a 0 BE wolf with full battle will hit for 23, while a wolf with full battle and at least 525 BE will hit for 27. I don't believe weight or vitals make any kind of significant difference in PvP battles.

One must also take into account the slight advantages the different factions will have during certain times of the day, and also if the wolves in the battle are boosted or not, etc.
Obviously, you have the unfair advantage of a DH vs a non-DH, but like I mentioned earlier these are not always an automatic win for the DH side. But then you also have Crushing Strength which I believe has a slightly higher chance of hitting criticals which deal (I think) 10 more damage than a normal hit. And then Elite Speed, which has the chance to hit twice in one turn. Or Nimble Foot wolves who are more likely to avoid your attacks as they have higher agility.

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